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Old 02-03-2009, 08:02 AM   #1
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BTW, Undertoad...if Tice, in his recent interviews, had provided any detail beyond just the general outline of what he observed in the way of potentially illegal spying on citizens by the NSA with an authorization from Bush, he would likely have been subject to arrest under the Official Secrets Act.
He can say "I have additional, utterly convincing details which I can't reveal under the law. My hope is that a Special Prosecutor is appointed to whom I can safely give this information."

But he doesn't. He just puts his poorly-explained evidence of *something* suspicious and lets it hang there, so people will take it as confirmed that domestic spying happened.

And if it were me, and I had actual, damning evidence of illegal operations, I would accept being arrested for revealing it. How about you?
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:40 AM   #2
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He can say "I have additional, utterly convincing details which I can't reveal under the law. My hope is that a Special Prosecutor is appointed to whom I can safely give this information."

But he doesn't. He just puts his poorly-explained evidence of *something* suspicious and lets it hang there, so people will take it as confirmed that domestic spying happened.

And if it were me, and I had actual, damning evidence of illegal operations, I would accept being arrested for revealing it. How about you?
I agree that the manner in which Tice revealed what he (allegedly) knew and saw raises doubt and doesnt necessarily reflect well on him.

I dont know that I am that noble as to potentially risk 5-10 years in jail for crimes against the "people" committed by higher ups. I would like to think so.

I do believe that it is essential that the fact surrounding the Bush administration actions and their unilateral interpretation of presidential "war powers" (particularly when Congress had not declared a "state of war") be brought to light.

Which is why I believe that these many Bush memorandum be made public and part of an investigation such as that proposed in the Commission described above.

Not for the purpose of putting Bush officials on trial, but for putting further safeguards in place to restore the executive/legislative checks and balances and prevent such actions by any future president.
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