Obama--the grumblings

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by wolf

Don't forget, Pi day is March 14.

At 16:00?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by richlevy

It would be interesting to see you define 'common run'. IMO, Slate, Salon and the New Republic match up well with National Review (I don't know Commentary) and I assume are 'responsible' examples under your definition. As for 'common run', the most watched/read conservatives of late are Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. I am having a hard time finding liberal examples who are both as popular and as damaging to the national psyche.

Not the national psyche, Rich -- the leftist psyche, which frankly requires severe damaging if you want a Republic. If you want a tyranny, stick with the Left. Personally, I'm not having any.

One of the biggest losers under the Bush Era were conservative intellectuals, who seem to have become disenfranchised under the Republican 'embrace stupidity' anti-'elitist' mantra. The only thing that Bush and Buckley had in common were the first two letters of their last names.

Such a "loss" would have been shown in an absence of conservative intellectual effort -- that absence is not in evidence. They're still cranking out the smart stuff, and if anything at a greater pace. What's more, so many of them are Republicans that you just can't show that Republican = intellectually impoverished. This was a clue to me that the left-of-center just ain't got it. Dinesh D'Souza remarked that the bright conservatives don't go into politics as much as their opposite numbers, but instead into business. What I see here is that richlevy is being suckered. Doesn't have to be that way. You may refuse to believe that I'm living proof -- but tell me, from what you've seen is that likely to stop me?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Common run: we could note Harper's and Z. Great founts of unwisdom. I suppose I could go through the labor of reading through them for sentence by sentence quotes -- do you think it would change my opinion?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Hell no.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

do you think it would change my opinion?

Not really. Frankly, if you had lived a few thousand years earlier, you would probably have said something like "Nice rocks Moses, but the golden calf is easier to polish and my neighbors wife is pretty damn hot.'

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Since when do you have a real reason -- not the dubious stuff that has apparently satisfied you until now -- to respond so? Can any one person be that unenlightened? Quite beyond belief, chum. Leftists remain leftists only through stubbornly maintained ignorance, while the conservatives stride from enlightenment to enlightenment. No doubts from you or, say, Bruce can change this progress. You might start to wonder what you're missing.

Why yes. Yes one can. Apparently.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Why yes. Yes one can. Apparently.

Whenever UG goes really over-the-top, I have another one of my "On the Internet noone knows you're a dog" conspiracy theories that UG is an alter-ego of an existing Cellarite. That maybe s/he was going to use "Urbanana Gorilla" but decided that doing that would reveal the joke.

I do not believe that a real human being could consistently self-parody the way UG has on a primary account, even anonymously.

Maybe Brianna banned herself because she was unable to continue maintaining two Cellar accounts.

[capnhowdy]

..nah.. no way. Claudette is a live and let live person. I don't think she would be obsessed with converting others to her beliefs.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Whenever UG goes really over-the-top, I have another one of my "On the Internet noone knows you're a dog" conspiracy theories that UG is an alter-ego of an existing Cellarite. That maybe s/he was going to use "Urbanana Gorilla" but decided that doing that would reveal the joke.

I do not believe that a real human being could consistently self-parody the way UG has on a primary account, even anonymously.

Maybe Brianna banned herself because she was unable to continue maintaining two Cellar accounts.

Except for the Bri part, that is actually a viable theory. :p

[Pie]

Except that UG does have really good posts about food. That's the only place I've seen him rational, well-informed and interesting.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Whenever UG goes really over-the-top, I have another one of my "On the Internet noone knows you're a dog" conspiracy theories that UG is an alter-ego of an existing Cellarite. That maybe s/he was going to use "Urbanana Gorilla" but decided that doing that would reveal the joke.

I do not believe that a real human being could consistently self-parody the way UG has on a primary account, even anonymously.

Maybe Brianna banned herself because she was unable to continue maintaining two Cellar accounts.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Hell no.

That's because I think and I seek. What I find in the seeking tells me the Left ain't nowhere near to getting that quintessential "it" which makes a life worth the living. They don't have a lot in common with me. I have better ambitions than they, and it's not like there's only so much room over here by me: there's plenty left for you.

I know there's nothing so irritating as a good example, yet still a good example is the only one I can in conscience give, and the only one I'm going to.

Yeah, there's that Heinleinian remark, somewhere in Starship Troopers, about the guy who doesn't have social values worth having, doesn't want them, and will fight like hell to avoid them -- he thought such men really suck, and I agree.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Pie

Except that UG does have really good posts about food. That's the only place I've seen him rational, well-informed and interesting.

But you forgot "tasty."

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Except for the Bri part, that is actually a viable theory. :p

Hee hee -- too bad for Shawnee's worldview that it founders on the fact that I'm realer even than Brianna; not all your piety or wit can efface a line or blot out a word of it, as Khalil Gibran said. As for the people who say "the man's doing a self-parody," they lack a certain breadth of imagination, and they are desperately kidding themselves in an attempt to remain wallowing in their savage and silly darkness of mind. Funny thing to pick over good and enlightened thinking. Doesn't engender a lot of respect for their intellectual powers, I must say. Does display an impressive degree of procrastination, if you're looking for impressive properties.

[Shawnee123]

Huh?