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Old 12-23-2008, 07:43 AM   #1
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That's done in the UK. In the US, refrigerators cannot be on a GFCI for human safety reasons.
Why? They would rather there be a ground fault and an electrocuted person than have spoiled food?
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Old 12-23-2008, 02:42 PM   #2
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Why? They would rather there be a ground fault and an electrocuted person than have spoiled food?
Far riskier to a human is food spoiled by a refrigerator power off for too long; then cooled by a reset GFCI.

Meanwhile, all refrigerators must have three wire receptacles that make danger minimal.

Do electrical work. Getting shocked is rarely deadly. And then a standard refrigerator has additional connections that make that risk even less. Food poisoning is considered a greater threat according to code.

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Old 12-23-2008, 03:29 PM   #3
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We used to pay a game when I was a kid. The game was to touch the shielding on a bx armored cable by our basement steps while simultaneously touching a lally column with the other hand. The person who could hold on longest would win.

One day we casually mentioned this game to my dad, and he went white. He fixed whatever it was so we couldn't play that game any more. Well, we could still play, but the fun was gone.

I don't think it was the full force of the current, because I've received that before too, and it's strong. But it was very tingly.
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Old 12-24-2008, 09:11 AM   #4
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He fixed whatever it was so we couldn't play that game any more.
It should be obvious to you and every other adult why that should not exist and how easily it is eliminated. Not acceptable. The classic example of a 'canary in a coalmine'. Typically would have been 60 volts.

Adults are required to know certain simply things such as not using a hairdryer in the bathtub, why we earth, and what happens when too much current goes in one arm, out the other, through the heart. Not knowing why that was so dangerous and not knowing what makes that not possible is a requirement of being a responsible adult. There are certain things everyone is expected to know such as not cleaning something with gasoline inside a house.

Same applies to the refrigerator - why it must be connected to a three wire receptacle. Why a two wire receptacle is not acceptable anywhere - especially when kids are in the house.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:24 AM   #5
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It should be obvious to you and every other adult why that should not exist and how easily it is eliminated. Not acceptable. The classic example of a 'canary in a coalmine'. Typically would have been 60 volts.

Adults are required to know certain simply things such as not using a hairdryer in the bathtub, why we earth, and what happens when too much current goes in one arm, out the other, through the heart. Not knowing why that was so dangerous and not knowing what makes that not possible is a requirement of being a responsible adult. There are certain things everyone is expected to know such as not cleaning something with gasoline inside a house.

Same applies to the refrigerator - why it must be connected to a three wire receptacle. Why a two wire receptacle is not acceptable anywhere - especially when kids are in the house.
Yeah. Well, I was a kid, and it was kinda fun. I know better today. And my dad didn't know about it until we told him. And then he fixed it that day. Himself.
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