Saving the US Auto Industry

[tw]

From Dana Milbank of the Washington Post on 20 Nov 2008:

Auto Execs Fly Corporate Jets to D.C., Tin Cups in Hand
There are 24 daily nonstop flights from Detroit to the Washington area. Richard Wagoner, Alan Mulally and Robert Nardelli probably should have taken one of them.

Instead, the chief executives of the Big Three automakers opted to fly their company jets to the capital for their hearings this week before the Senate and House -- an ill-timed display of corporate excess for a trio of executives begging for an additional $25 billion from the public trough this week.

"There's a delicious irony in seeing private luxury jets flying into Washington, D.C., and people coming off of them with tin cups in their hands," Rep. Gary L. Ackerman (D-N.Y.) advised the pampered executives at a hearing yesterday. "It's almost like seeing a guy show up at the soup kitchen in high-hat and tuxedo. . . . I mean, couldn't you all have downgraded to first class or jet-pooled or something to get here?"

The Big Three said nothing, which prompted Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) to rub it in. "I'm going to ask the three executives here to raise their hand if they flew here commercial," he said. All still at the witness table. "Second," he continued, "I'm going ask you to raise your hand if you're planning to sell your jet . . . and fly back commercial." More stillness. "Let the record show no hands went up," Sherman grandstanded.

That these automakers are trying to be frugal or restructuring - another glaring symptoms that says no. Without bankruptcy, no automaker is willing to make serious and extremely difficult choices ... such as flying on a commercial airplane.

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by tw

From Dana Milbank of the Washington Post on 20 Nov 2008: That these automakers are trying to be frugal or restructuring - another glaring symptoms that says no. Without bankruptcy, no automaker is willing to make serious and extremely difficult choices ... such as flying on a commercial airplane.

This whole thing makes me wonder whether there will be another French Revolution type uprising if the huge job losses do happen.

Oh, and TW...Im not really responding to you here...so if you feel the urge to insult my intelligence again...please dont.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Oh, and TW...Im not really responding to you here...so if you feel the urge to insult my intelligence again...please dont.

Fugetaboutit, he's in asshole mode.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Oh, and TW...Im not really responding to you here...so if you feel the urge to insult my intelligence again...please dont.

I never insult intelligence. I only post facts. And do so without any regard for something that is not technically relevant - emotions.

Again, I posted facts only like I was your best friend. Please don't insult me by assuming I am doing anything other than that. Please read what I post only for its technical content.

Now, if you were insulted, I have zero knowledge why. You did not specifically list reasons why. So I am completely confused as to why I 'insulted intelligence'. I posted like your best friend.

Meanwhile, you made statements about people straightening shelves or sweeping floors - to make work when work does not exist. As demonstrated in "The Goal", that same mistake was made in the corporation - made the place less productive. Make work was one example of how to reduce productivity. But again, I cannot explain it. If you did not learn from the book, then you have no idea why "sweeping the floors" can be the perfect example of how to make an operation less productive. Yes, your intelligence might be insulted without reading the book and instead jumping to conclusions. 'Staightening the shelves' is an example of what is demonstrated to not do. If you did not read the book, then you have no grasp of what I have posted.

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by tw

I never insult intelligence. I only post facts. And do so without any regard for something that is not technically relevant - emotions.

Again, I posted facts only like I was your best friend. Please don't insult me by assuming I am doing anything other than that. Please read what I post only for its technical content.

Now, if you were insulted, I have zero knowledge why. You did not specifically list reasons why. So I am completely confused as to why I 'insulted intelligence'. I posted like your best friend.

Meanwhile, you made statements about people straightening shelves or sweeping floors - to make work when work does not exist. As demonstrated in "The Goal", that same mistake was made in the corporation - made the place less productive. Make work was one example of how to reduce productivity. But again, I cannot explain it. If you did not learn from the book, then you have no idea why "sweeping the floors" can be the perfect example of how to make an operation less productive. Yes, your intelligence might be insulted without reading the book and instead jumping to conclusions. 'Staightening the shelves' is an example of what is demonstrated to not do. If you did not read the book, then you have no grasp of what I have posted.

Your communication style sucks TW...its your own personal bottleneck. Maybe you need to re-read the book and apply the TOC to the way you deal with people.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Your communication style sucks TW...its

Adults who are still children wear their emotions on their sleeves. Adults don't need to have words carefully selected to appease their emotions. Instead, adults would ask, "did you mean this"? That would be the logical response.

You have no idea what I posted until you read the book. But again, grasp the technical content. Ignore any implications.

If you read anything implied in what I post, then you and only you are adding things that are not there. Therefore you are insulting me. Making conclusions from things I did not post. The only thing in that previous post was its technical content. Nothing more.

I don't worry about carefully wording for those who always see hidden messages - who need everything stated politically correct. It is, for example, why George Jr's lies about WMDs did not work on me. I also only see the facts and have contempt of implied conclusions.

I deal bluntly with reality. That means I expect you to quash emotions that jump to wild speculation and radical conclusions. That means my posting will upset those who let their emotions create implied conclusions.

IOW whose communications skills suck? The one who states honestly and bluntly? Or the one who sees hidden meanings into statements and then jumps to emotional conclusions? Apparently you did not understand what I posted, did not ask for clarification, and then got snippy. And again, words not chosen to be poltiically correct - just honest. Yes, I am again measuring you (in that last sentence) to see if you can deal honestly or need to be carefully petted.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by tw

Adults who are still children wear their emotions on their sleeves. Adults don't need to have words carefully selected to appease their emotions. Instead, adults would ask, "did you mean this"? That would be the logical response.

The above represents what the carbon-based life forms called homo sapiens call 'passive-aggressive ass-holery'

Originally Posted by tw

You have no idea what I posted until you read the book. But again, grasp I deal bluntly with reality. That means I expect you to quash emotions that jump to wild speculation and radical conclusions. That means my posting will upset those who let their emotions create implied conclusions.

The above is more of the same 'passive-aggressive ass-holery'

Originally Posted by tw

whose communications skills suck? The one who states honestly and bluntly? ...carefully petted.

YOUR communication skills suck. And, 'carefully petted'--WTF?

Anyhoo, tw, ya manky cock, I am laughing while I'm posting this.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Brianna

The above represents what the carbon-based life forms called homo sapiens call 'passive-aggressive ass-holery'

Always amusing to prime the pump and see what comes up.