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Old 10-31-2008, 12:45 PM   #1
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I think every president since the beginning has sold a bill of goods they can't ALWAYS NECESSARILY deliver, at least the ones who had to campaign. Remember "read my lips...blah blah blah"?

They deliver what they can, what they can get through congress or whatever, but they have always and will always present it as "this is what I'm gonna do." THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. And I, at least, vote for the one whose IDEAS most closely match the things I find important. THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

Can I have an itemized list of any of the past 10 president's "campaign" promises and how many of those promises actually came to fruition?

Obama is no different, just because you don't like him. I seriously hope you don't point for 4 years, because then I will have to ignore you.
Certainly you must feel that this is different and the media circus and supposed aura around this guy is different? It is like how people swooned over the Beatles in the 60's, a rock star mentality that makes people stop thinking with their heads.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:53 PM   #2
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Certainly you must feel that this is different and the media circus and supposed aura around this guy is different? It is like how people swooned over the Beatles in the 60's, a rock star mentality that makes people stop thinking with their heads.
And there you go again. Why do you not only assume that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, you damn near assert it?

I am not stupid. I read. I listen. I make up my own mind. I find it extremely insulting that you imply I'm an idiot. It isn't about his supposed aura. But we have gotten to the gist of every post you have made in regards to this election: you are bound and determined to enlighten us who are blind, to steer those of us with no wheel, and deliver us from our mindless following of a cult leader.

I thought you just really had strong opinions. I see now you think I'm stupid in comparison to you and yours.

Thanks though, I'll live in my fog, if that's what you think it is. I don't think it's a fog, however. I may not have 47000 college degrees, rkz (oh, sorry) but I have an education, and I assure you I'm no mindless fool nor am I one to follow a crowd, unless that crowd is right, in my (informed and aware) eyes.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:03 PM   #3
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And there you go again. Why do you not only assume that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, you damn near assert it?

I am not stupid. I read. I listen. I make up my own mind. I find it extremely insulting that you imply I'm an idiot. It isn't about his supposed aura. But we have gotten to the gist of every post you have made in regards to this election: you are bound and determined to enlighten us who are blind, to steer those of us with no wheel, and deliver us from our mindless following of a cult leader.

I thought you just really had strong opinions. I see now you think I'm stupid in comparison to you and yours.

Thanks though, I'll live in my fog, if that's what you think it is. I don't think it's a fog, however. I may not have 47000 college degrees, rkz (oh, sorry) but I have an education, and I assure you I'm no mindless fool nor am I one to follow a crowd, unless that crowd is right, in my (informed and aware) eyes.
You are reading to much into my comments. Take a chill pill, I made no such assertions. If you put yourself into a group of people who are blindly voting for Obama then that is something you ascribe to yourself, not me.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:57 PM   #4
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Why do you not only assume that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, you damn near assert it?
Well -- I for one have to. Having read; having observed.

What kind of sheep-fucking idiot drags his feet about winning a war against totalitarian, unabashedly illiberal and oppressive enemies? That's been the Democratic senior leadership all over. Mindless, undemocratic, and unstrategic, focused not on winning the war for humanity (democracy being indisputably better for humans than the Islamists' alternative) but on winning the White House for partisanry's sake.

And, for some people, this is all just fine. Hunky-dory.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:38 PM   #5
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sheep-fucking idiot
Wow. You're classy.
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:51 PM   #6
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Well -- I for one have to. Having read; having observed.

What kind of sheep-fucking idiot drags his feet about winning a war against totalitarian, unabashedly illiberal and oppressive enemies? That's been the Democratic senior leadership all over. Mindless, undemocratic, and unstrategic, focused not on winning the war for humanity (democracy being indisputably better for humans than the Islamists' alternative) but on winning the White House for partisanry's sake.

And, for some people, this is all just fine. Hunky-dory.
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Well isn't it kind of us to raise up those poor misguided Muslims. I'm sure all was done in the spirit of Christian kindness. It's the white man's burden but we must bear it as best we can.
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I notice we haven't gone in to help those poor misguided souls in North Korea yet. I wonder why that is?


If you look up imperialism in the dictionary, I think you'll find a picture of UG.
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:52 PM   #7
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If you look up complete fucking mentalist in the dictionary, I think you'll find a picture of UG.
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