I'm angry this morning - Page 2

lumberjim · 10-28-2008, 03:11 PM

the point i started off that last post to make, but forgot to was this:

The cops that are doing the actual searches will (because they do it every fucking day) begin to pick out people that look like they won't put up a big fight about the whole thing....and people that are obviously going to be easy to search. They don't really WANT to catch a terrorist, they just want to fill their quota and have an uneventful day, and get home to their tv set.

SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty and keep open containers of mayonnaise in your coat pockets. or sprinkle white powder around you if they try to select you.

SamIam · 10-28-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Why, the Democratic Congress made it all possible, they are the ones who approved the laws that expanded the police powers of the country. You want Big Government, you are about to get it.

Hello? What are you? Four years old? The Congress and the excutive branch at the time of 9/11 were Republican. They remained Republican when all those happy new laws were passed which detract from our liberties. It is the Republicans who want to look in our windows and tell us what kind of sex to have. It is the Republicans who want to deny a 16 year old rape victim access to an abortion. Ever hear of the Evangelical Right? Get a grip, Merc. The Republicans are hardly the scions of civil rights that you seem to think they are.

lumberjim · 10-28-2008, 03:16 PM

i think hitler was a republican

glatt · 10-28-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty

I'm good at that.

Pie · 10-28-2008, 03:29 PM

Get an EFF swat-team hat, or an ACLU sticker on your bag

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Aliantha · 10-28-2008, 05:24 PM

They do bag searches when you go to the cricket here. They're mostly looking for musical instruments and alcohol though. People who go to the cricket don't usually worry about trying to shoot or stab anyone. They just go to get rowdy and drunk.

lookout123 · 10-28-2008, 06:00 PM

OK, so they are saying they're going to wand you and look in your bags before you can get on buses and trains?

1) With only 15 cops that sounds like a ridiculous waste of time.
2) Why is it a big deal? I "randomly" get flagged for searches every single time I fly, it isn't a big deal. You are asking to get on a crowded vehicle at which point they may or may not check to make sure you aren't carrying weapons. They aren't wandering around the streets stoppng random people are they?

*** quick note ***

I'm not saying you're wrong for being upset, I'm just saying I don't get it. You are asking to use a service and they have put a condition on the use of that service. Annoying and ineffective (as most government decisions are) but seemingly reasonable.

Elspode · 10-28-2008, 06:16 PM

Clearly, you all hate freedom. Well, except for Merc.

jinx · 10-28-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Annoying and ineffective (as most government decisions are) but seemingly reasonable.

I don't think its reasonable.
How common are terroristic acts that it's reasonable to detain and search people without cause. You accept it before getting on an airplane, you'll accept it before getting on a bus, will you accept it before enter a mall or grocery store - how about exiting your house... when will it stop?

The more you fear (or hate, or think stupid) your neighbors, the more the government gets away with.

dar512 · 10-28-2008, 06:47 PM

The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures.

There's a reason it's in there.

smoothmoniker · 10-28-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

i think hitler was a republican

Nah ... he wasn't prolife.

ZenGum · 10-28-2008, 07:33 PM

That sucks.

Most of the reasons why have already been discussed.

I think it is time for some civil disobedience. I'm thinking of sit-ins around the bus depot to prevent them from moving, or something.

This is stupid paranoia. It has gone to far. It should be stopped and wound back.

TheMercenary · 10-28-2008, 08:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2n039txnk

TheMercenary · 10-28-2008, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam

Hello? What are you? Four years old? The Congress and the excutive branch at the time of 9/11 were Republican. They remained Republican when all those happy new laws were passed which detract from our liberties. It is the Republicans who want to look in our windows and tell us what kind of sex to have. It is the Republicans who want to deny a 16 year old rape victim access to an abortion. Ever hear of the Evangelical Right? Get a grip, Merc. The Republicans are hardly the scions of civil rights that you seem to think they are.

Hello? What are you? 2 years old? What are you? Four Years old? The Congress and the excutive branch for the last 2 years have been completely controlled by the demoncrats.

TheMercenary · 10-28-2008, 08:18 PM

Hey, YAFI..................

10-28-2008, 03:11 PM	#16
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	the point i started off that last post to make, but forgot to was this: The cops that are doing the actual searches will (because they do it every fucking day) begin to pick out people that look like they won't put up a big fight about the whole thing....and people that are obviously going to be easy to search. They don't really WANT to catch a terrorist, they just want to fill their quota and have an uneventful day, and get home to their tv set. SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty and keep open containers of mayonnaise in your coat pockets. or sprinkle white powder around you if they try to select you. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-28-2008, 03:16 PM	#18
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i think hitler was a republican __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-28-2008, 03:29 PM	#20
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Get an EFF swat-team hat, or an ACLU sticker on your bag . __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

10-28-2008, 05:24 PM	#21
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	They do bag searches when you go to the cricket here. They're mostly looking for musical instruments and alcohol though. People who go to the cricket don't usually worry about trying to shoot or stab anyone. They just go to get rowdy and drunk. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-28-2008, 06:00 PM	#22
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	OK, so they are saying they're going to wand you and look in your bags before you can get on buses and trains? 1) With only 15 cops that sounds like a ridiculous waste of time. 2) Why is it a big deal? I "randomly" get flagged for searches every single time I fly, it isn't a big deal. You are asking to get on a crowded vehicle at which point they may or may not check to make sure you aren't carrying weapons. They aren't wandering around the streets stoppng random people are they? * quick note * I'm not saying you're wrong for being upset, I'm just saying I don't get it. You are asking to use a service and they have put a condition on the use of that service. Annoying and ineffective (as most government decisions are) but seemingly reasonable. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin Last edited by lookout123; 10-28-2008 at 06:06 PM.

10-28-2008, 06:16 PM	#23
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Clearly, you all hate freedom. Well, except for Merc. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

10-28-2008, 06:47 PM	#25
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures. There's a reason it's in there. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

10-28-2008, 07:33 PM	#27
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	That sucks. Most of the reasons why have already been discussed. I think it is time for some civil disobedience. I'm thinking of sit-ins around the bus depot to prevent them from moving, or something. This is stupid paranoia. It has gone to far. It should be stopped and wound back. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

10-28-2008, 08:10 PM	#28
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2n039txnk __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-28-2008, 08:18 PM	#30
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Hey, YAFI.................. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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