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Old 10-25-2008, 10:59 AM   #1
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That is what I was getting at. If we straighten ourselves out the rest just falls into place. If each of us is more productive and creative at work "society" benefits. If we go to work just to squeeze a few bucks out of the system, we get the kind of nonsense the banking system is going through.

I'd need a example from Dana on what that job would be. When I was a kid putting in hay in the summer it was tough, but had a certain kind of satisfaction. Tough manual labor is satisfying to certain kinds of folks. If you are not that kind you should do something else if you can.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:13 AM   #2
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That is what I was getting at. If we straighten ourselves out the rest just falls into place. If each of us is more productive and creative at work "society" benefits. If we go to work just to squeeze a few bucks out of the system, we get the kind of nonsense the banking system is going through.
I'm not following you here. You will have to explain. I'm not sure how you are connecting my productivity with the utter failure of the financial markets. Or my happiness with the productivity. I'm lame....I can't figure out what you mean.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:59 AM   #3
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I'm not following you here. You will have to explain. I'm not sure how you are connecting my productivity with the utter failure of the financial markets. Or my happiness with the productivity. I'm lame....I can't figure out what you mean.
The guys who created those financial instruments didn't do so to create something of value. They did it to pass liabilities on to someone else. It is fuzzy thinking on my part. What I'm more focused on is getting out of a recession which is more about attitude than economics. If people with other options are not wasting their own or other's energy we can pull out of this thing without Obama or McCain further stiffling innovation with increased controls, taxation, and bailouts.
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Old 10-26-2008, 01:32 PM   #4
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I'd need a example from Dana on what that job would be. When I was a kid putting in hay in the summer it was tough, but had a certain kind of satisfaction. Tough manual labor is satisfying to certain kinds of folks. If you are not that kind you should do something else if you can.
I heard a report recently on the radio that was about this very thing. One of the jobs with the lowest rates of depression and suicide is refuse collection. What the report picked out was that in some jobs, the fact that people are overworked, underpaid and under siege from uncaring bosses, actually serves to create a much closer bond and cameraderie amongst the workers. Some of the 'worst' jobs bring with them other benefits. The only people who know what it's like to do a busy Thursday morning bin run, are the bin men (garbage collectors) so they instantly share something uncommon.
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