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Old 10-13-2008, 11:05 PM   #16
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You've not been to the Middle East, or you don't want to share?
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:08 PM   #17
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:08 PM   #18
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DO Muslim extremists care about women and children in their quest for Muslim supremacy? It is a battleground for ideology. The US is sleeping. Obama will foster it. And I will be here to remind you of it. Obama and his Demoncratic Congress will own all events that occur after November 4th.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:09 PM   #19
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Ok, please share. I would be very interested in your experince when you were in the Middle East. Thanks.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:23 PM   #20
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DO Muslim extremists care about women and children in their quest for Muslim supremacy? It is a battleground for ideology. The US is sleeping. Obama will foster it. And I will be here to remind you of it. Obama and his Demoncratic Congress will own all events that occur after November 4th.
See here's the problem. Islam is much more fragmented than most realize. These splinter groups are to Islam as the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. They claim to be Islamic. but have widely different beliefs than orthodox Islam and as such are not accepted by general Sunnis and Shi'as. Hell, Shi'as are just barely alllowed on the hajj by the mainstream Sunnis, let alone other splinter groups like the Sevener's and the Twelver's and one that believes Ali, Muhammad's son, is a messianic figure. We can't continue to paint this broad picture of an all-conquering, unified Islam, it just isn't accurate. Christian churches use very similar rhetoric about the End Times, judgement, God's kingdom established on earth, "go and make disciples of all nations", etc.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:29 PM   #21
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Dammm.... Sounds like Christian groups in the US!!!!

How many have used Car Bombs to get their message across? Just wondering...
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:32 PM   #22
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Ok, please share. I would be very interested in your experince when you were in the Middle East. Thanks.
Hey, if this is what floats your boat, go for it. Some people need something to fear and hate in order to generate purpose in their life. I reject it.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:37 PM   #23
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Hey, if this is what floats your boat, go for it. Some people need something to fear and hate in order to generate purpose in their life. I reject it.
Cool, I respect your choice to stick your head in the sand. But I will be here to blame the next administration for everthing that happens after 4 Nov for the next 4 years.... And rub it in the face of anyone who supported them before that.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:38 PM   #24
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Dammm.... Sounds like Christian groups in the US!!!!

How many have used Car Bombs to get their message across? Just wondering...
None that I know of. Abortion clinic bombings do come to mind though. Yet any self proclaimed "Christian" who uses a car bombing to get his/her point across is in the same boat as any "Muslim" car bomber. The normal, law abiding mainstream folks, Christians and Muslims, declare that such activities are not in alignment with the tenants of their faiths. To kill innocents goes against the central teachings of brotherly love and care-taking of the weak and the poor that both faiths share. These extremists are not considered a part of the Muslim faith, so it is irresponsible for us to label them as though they are representative of underlying Islamic tones of world domination by whatever means.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:40 PM   #25
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Merc, the challenges that we will face as a nation will be far more pressing than the threat that comes from Islamic Radicals.
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I agree, so please tell me when the last Christian used a car bomb to get their point across and how often. Thanks.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:43 PM   #27
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Merc, the challenges that we will face as a nation will be far more pressing than the threat that comes from Islamic Radicals.
Yes and no. Time will tell. Since I can only base my own experience of 20 years on active duty my view is scewed. I admit it. But I will also tell you that for every event that makes the news paper, that the average Joe reads about, there are 5 to 10 that they never heard about and never will. The world is evil people. Believe it or not.....
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:07 AM   #28
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I agree, so please tell me when the last Christian used a car bomb to get their point across and how often. Thanks.
Do I really have to list all the atrocities committed during The Troubles?
Plenty of good Christians blowing eachother up. And please don't think they targeted the Armed Forces, or the Government.

They bombed pubs, hotels, shopping centres.
And it had as much to do with religion as politics as power as fear of invasion as any Muslim bombings.

ETA like to target commuters. Do they care about women and children?
Nope!
They care about a separate Catalan state.
Are they Christians?
Probably, they're certainly not Muslims.

Go on, blame the Government from 4 Novemeber for every single thing that happens, from you stepping in gum to the next bomb that kills American people. But if McCain wins the same thing stands. And it means you blame everything that has happened up until now on whatever Government was in power at the time too.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:19 AM   #29
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Well said, Sundae Girl!
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:19 AM   #30
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And it means you blame everything that has happened up until now on whatever Government was in power at the time too.
That is why I posted it, [sarc]. To late, everyone already does that. And now this piece of news.


WARNING FROM THE MIDDLE EAST

This morning, from a cave somewhere in Pakistan, Taliban Minister of Migration, Mohammed Omar, warned the United States that if military actions against Iraq continues, Taliban authorities will cut off American's supply of convenience store managers, and possible candidates for President of the United States. And if this action does not yield sufficient results, cab drivers will be next, followed by Dell and AOL customer service reps., and then Motel 6 managers.

Folks, it's getting ugly........
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