Obama has won the nomination

[deadbeater]

Yeah, if Mark Penn had his way, the Clintons would all but make Blacks start a new third party and run them out of Harlem. Good thing the Clintons adjusted in midstream, and make it on this side of a halfway decent primary fight. What a schmuck Penn was. If the Republicans had operatives in the Democatic party, they would do no better than Penn.

[Griff]

[cynic] Apparently Obama and McCain got together at one of those mega-churches where people go to be anonymous before God. That probably isn't fair but for someone raised in rural community churches it just looks like spiritual fast food. People in large single minded groups where the individual submits to group will make me nervous whether they're Cub Scouts, metal heads, Christians or [godwin]Nazis[/godwin]. The ever creepy neo-com William Kristol did manage to tease out a difference between McCain and Obama on the question of confronting evil. From my reading of it McCain will follow the Bush plan of feeding evil by commiting disproportionate evil and Obama won't really say. For a while I was feeling good that Bush would leave and things would improve, but these guys weaken the positive vibrations.[/cynic]