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View Poll Results: Who is to blame for recent gas price increases?
Market speculators 14 40.00%
Oil companies 13 37.14%
Oil producing countries 8 22.86%
China 10 28.57%
US Automakers 9 25.71%
Lack of refining capacity 10 28.57%
US government/lawmakers 11 31.43%
The Federal Reserve 7 20.00%
Dark Markets 4 11.43%
TheMercenary 7 20.00%
US Consumers 12 34.29%
Other 13 37.14%
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Old 08-02-2008, 11:54 AM   #1
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GM Has $15.5 Billion Loss on U.S. Sales Drop, Leases (Update4)

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General Motors Corp. reported a second-quarter loss of $15.5 billion, the third biggest in its 100-year history, because of plunging U.S. sales and the declining value of truck leases. The shares fell as much as 11 percent.

The deficit of $27.33 a share compares with a profit of $891 million, or $1.56, a year earlier. Excluding costs GM considers one-time, the per-share loss was 4 times bigger than analysts projected. Labor strikes contributed to a $9.9 billion drop in North American revenue, and sales worldwide tumbled 18 percent to $38.2 billion.

The results step up pressure on Chief Executive Officer Rick Wagoner, 55, to show he can revive the largest U.S. automaker. Wagoner, in his ninth year as CEO, has posted $69.8 billion in losses since 2004 and is trying to raise as much as $17 billion in cash while speeding the development of fuel-saving cars to replace the sport-utility vehicles being shunned by U.S. buyers.

``They really need those external fund-raising measures to get through to 2010,'' said Brian Johnson, a Chicago-based Lehman Brothers analyst, in a Bloomberg Television interview. ``We cannot count on an economic rebound.''
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:15 PM   #2
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OK tw, we get it... wait - Classic?
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:16 PM   #3
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I filled up the gas tank in that little ford focus I bought. I went 352 miles on 9.8 gallons. In the city. Not sure about the 70 HP/L though.
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Old 08-02-2008, 11:21 PM   #4
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Not sure about the 70 HP/L though.
Exactly 70hp/L. The new North American Focuses have a 2.0 L engine that produces 140hp.

Hey, do you have SYNC and the optional ambient lighting in yours?
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:00 PM   #5
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Exactly 70hp/L. The new North American Focuses have a 2.0 L engine that produces 140hp.

Hey, do you have SYNC and the optional ambient lighting in yours?
wow, too bad that technology is decades old...

anyway, yes I do have the SYNC system and so far am enjoying it to the point that i haven't even plugged my iPod in yet as I'm just using a memory stick to see the features the SYNC has within it. The phone mic and speakers work well too. Ambient lighting I'm not sure about, I haven't noticed a lava lamp if that's what you mean.
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Old 08-02-2008, 05:08 PM   #6
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OK tw, we get it... wait - Classic?
Again, I figured I'd save us all another 2000 word post - thats all.

It was an interesting read too - lotta info. I found some of the numbers a little confusing to me though. Its like I need something to relate them to, otherwise they aren't as relevant. Like they posted the 3rd largest loss in it 100 year history. Well could they do that in $% so it means more to me.

Also, I noticed the foreign car company #'s were posted in % instead of $$$. Seems to have more meaning that way. Thoughts? Opinions?
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