Science, Religion, and the Surrounding Confusion.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by classicman

snip~ but I've heard too many stories to the contrary.

The stories are never a complete picture, only the highlights, that are cherry picked, to make the storytellers point.

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

While we watch GM plants shut down all the time. The industry can't keep up with 40 dollar an hour wages. And, I know many people who have worked in these union high-paying shops and many have said they really don't work very hard. Sometimes they play cards.

The Honda plants around here have a much better model, imho. They pay really good wages (25/hour is typical), have no union, the employees work their butts off, and everyone is happy. They tend to not need lay-offs and shutdowns.

Which proves that American workers are willing to return a days work for a fair wage. If they are not working, ie playing cards, then it's definitely a management problem.