Science, Religion, and the Surrounding Confusion.

Aliantha · 07-30-2008, 07:37 PM

Well I don't know what miktrees' point was, but I thought he was having a bit of a joke actually.

I don't personally see my beliefs as hedging my bets though. In all things in life I try to avoid the all or nothing approach. This has served me fairly well. I find it hard to justify simply following what any church tells me about how I should live my life because I find too much ambiguity in most religious doctrine. I do however believe there's a higher power, and I don't need a middle man like a priest or reverend to put me in touch with him/her/it.

How bout this as a metaphor. The church is to the faithful, what the unions are to workers. If you have enough faith in yourself, and an ability to stand for your own actions and to have faith in your convictions, you don't need a middle man or someone else to speak for you or tell you what you should do. You just do it, knowing that you are doing the job of life the best way you possibly can.

morethanpretty · 08-02-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Well I don't know what miktrees' point was, but I thought he was having a bit of a joke actually.

I agree, I think you might've overreacted a bit, but if your experience with agnosticism has been negative that is understandable. Agnostic is a pretty general term though, most agnostics seem to have different reasons for and different resulting beliefs. Generally we just believe in "the possibility of something else." I'm not hedging my bets, I just have hope. Maybe its selfish or silly, but I don't want this lifetime to be my only one, there is so much I won't get to experience. So hopefully there is reincarnation, or at least a super awesome heaven. Like you've said though, we haven't found the evidence for it, doesn't mean it isn't there though. Perhaps we just haven't looked in the right place (try that rock over there!) or our minds still just can't comprehend it. I don't know of any agnostics who try and convert or push their ideals onto others, so why let it bother you? I don't care what you do as long as you don't insult me (which you did unintentionally so no harm really), or try and make me like you. Its just all about the hope for me.

regular.joe · 08-02-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty

(which you did unintentionally so no harm really)

If someone gives you a gift and you don't accept it, whose gift is it?

07-30-2008, 07:37 PM	#1
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well I don't know what miktrees' point was, but I thought he was having a bit of a joke actually. I don't personally see my beliefs as hedging my bets though. In all things in life I try to avoid the all or nothing approach. This has served me fairly well. I find it hard to justify simply following what any church tells me about how I should live my life because I find too much ambiguity in most religious doctrine. I do however believe there's a higher power, and I don't need a middle man like a priest or reverend to put me in touch with him/her/it. How bout this as a metaphor. The church is to the faithful, what the unions are to workers. If you have enough faith in yourself, and an ability to stand for your own actions and to have faith in your convictions, you don't need a middle man or someone else to speak for you or tell you what you should do. You just do it, knowing that you are doing the job of life the best way you possibly can. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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