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Sundae · 07-25-2008, 08:16 PM

You only say that because he left the Arse!

No, honestly, I think there are a number of reasons.
The Premier League have a huge number of games, and the players are under pressure to perform for the men who manage them and those that pay their wages - and they may not be English.

Add to that the fact that patriotism was a dirty word in England for a long time - the flag of St George was hijacked by the BNP and has only really made a comeback in the last 15 years or so (by people trying to distance themselves from Cool Brittania)

Also our national anthem is specifically religious and monarchist. I sing it with great pride because I love my country and I love singing and sod the fact I don't believe in the words. But even I admit it's far less evocative than a song that trumpets the virtues of its own singers (not knocking yours, I envy it - except for the range needed to sing it)

And finally, we are a pretty reserved nation in many ways. If your talent is for football, you probably dread the camera in your face before a national game, when you're judged on what is possibly not your strongest talent.

All that said - I still wish they'd perk up a bit. I just disagree with your hypothesis.

lookout123 · 07-25-2008, 08:20 PM

all fair points but one: I didn't like Ashley Cole even when he played at Arsenal. I've always thought he was an attention whoring little beeyotch.

I'm not a big fan of international football but my feeling is that if the player chooses to represent his country he should show a bit of pride in it. That goes for the US players too. I actually don't like quite a few of them for the same reason.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-25-2008, 11:40 PM

It's gonna take a lot of money to keep me out of the bleachers, with SG and her oranges.

be-bop · 07-28-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Also our national anthem is specifically religious and monarchist. I sing it with great pride because I love my country and I love singing and sod the fact I don't believe in the words. But even I admit it's far less evocative than a song that trumpets the virtues of its own singers (not knocking yours, I envy it - except for the range needed to sing it)

What about the verse they left out

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King.

Rebellious Scots to Crush aye come ahead

07-25-2008, 08:20 PM	#2
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	all fair points but one: I didn't like Ashley Cole even when he played at Arsenal. I've always thought he was an attention whoring little beeyotch. I'm not a big fan of international football but my feeling is that if the player chooses to represent his country he should show a bit of pride in it. That goes for the US players too. I actually don't like quite a few of them for the same reason. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

07-25-2008, 11:40 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's gonna take a lot of money to keep me out of the bleachers, with SG and her oranges. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-25-2008, 08:16 PM	#1
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	You only say that because he left the Arse! No, honestly, I think there are a number of reasons. The Premier League have a huge number of games, and the players are under pressure to perform for the men who manage them and those that pay their wages - and they may not be English. Add to that the fact that patriotism was a dirty word in England for a long time - the flag of St George was hijacked by the BNP and has only really made a comeback in the last 15 years or so (by people trying to distance themselves from Cool Brittania) Also our national anthem is specifically religious and monarchist. I sing it with great pride because I love my country and I love singing and sod the fact I don't believe in the words. But even I admit it's far less evocative than a song that trumpets the virtues of its own singers (not knocking yours, I envy it - except for the range needed to sing it) And finally, we are a pretty reserved nation in many ways. If your talent is for football, you probably dread the camera in your face before a national game, when you're judged on what is possibly not your strongest talent. All that said - I still wish they'd perk up a bit. I just disagree with your hypothesis.

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