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Old 07-15-2008, 01:58 AM   #1
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Then who?
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:18 AM   #2
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Then who?
African Nations. I felt the same way when we went to Bosnia, not our problem, that is Europe's problem. Same for Somalia, screw that place. And now Darfur, not our problem.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:29 AM   #3
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African Nations. I felt the same way when we went to Bosnia, not our problem, that is Europe's problem. Same for Somalia, screw that place. And now Darfur, not our problem.
China. It should be their problem.
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Old 07-19-2008, 01:47 AM   #4
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I disagree with Mercenary -- it is hardly "not our business" to eliminate oppression, is it? Not, at any rate, as long as any human feeling is in our hearts.

Of course, if human feeling has been deliberately excised...

Well, that's not the road to virtue.

Given the collapsed state of the Zimbabwean economy, economic sanctions however stringent would hardly even be felt. You'll see results when you remove the bad actors who perpetuate the situation. Where's the reason to restrict the amount of force used in the removal?
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Old 07-19-2008, 05:39 AM   #5
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I disagree with Mercenary -- it is hardly "not our business" to eliminate oppression, is it? Not, at any rate, as long as any human feeling is in our hearts.

Of course, if human feeling has been deliberately excised...

Well, that's not the road to virtue.

Given the collapsed state of the Zimbabwean economy, economic sanctions however stringent would hardly even be felt. You'll see results when you remove the bad actors who perpetuate the situation. Where's the reason to restrict the amount of force used in the removal?
In countries such as Zimbab, as impoverished and unstable as it has been, as raped as it has been by those in power, and in a place that has been beaten into the ground for the last 25 plus years since they kicked out the whites, to simply remove the dictator (as much as I agree with it) would give the victor the same set of problems that we have in Iraq. An unstable, post coup d’état and sucking black hole of people trying to take advantage of the lull in anarchy. It would only work with the complete support of the Army and Generals in charge who could stay on and maintain order. It would still take tens of years for it to recover economically. We don't need another briar patch.
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