Gas Prices: Who's to Blame?

Flint · 06-26-2008, 08:54 AM

Let them eat lollipops!

tw · 06-26-2008, 09:47 AM

How bad are GM products? What happens when a company stifles innovation for 30 years, hypes "Buy American", gets the naive to buy a 1995 technology car in 2008 - and praise it ... A GM stock investor now must go back to 1955 to see his capital investment increase. GM stock price reflects how bad GM reliability, design intelligence, and fuel economy really are. GM market capitalization is now so low - a paltry $6.5 billion - that even Sun Microsystems is worth more.

Buy GM; sell off its buildings and machines. Reap a profit. GM products suck that much. Is an investment opportunity approaching as GM stock drops to where it should have been 15 years ago?

How did we know this problem existed in GM? Their management (who don't have driver's licenses) joined the mental midget in touting hydrogen as a fuel. Anyone with access to any science knew hydrogen as a fuel was as real as Saddam's WMDs. Flex fuel vehicles? More hyped nonsense. GM getting as good as Toyota and Honda – the propaganda only six months ago? More lies.

GM management are bean counters - business school graduates - don't know anything about cars. Management so stupid as to even hype hydrogen as a fuel. That irrefutable fact – the hydrogen claim – said GM products were that bad. What happens when a company stifles innovation for 30 years, hypes "Buy American", gets the naive to buy a 1995 technology car in 2008 - and praise it ... A GM stock investor now must go back to 1955 to see his capital investment increase. GM stock price reflects how bad GM reliability, design intelligence, and fuel economy really are. GM market capitalization is now so low - a paltry $6.5 billion - that even Sun Microsystems is worth more.

How did we know these problem existed in GM? Their management (who don't have driver's licenses) joined the mental midget in touting hydrogen as a fuel. Anyone with access to any science publication knew hydrogen as a fuel was as real as Saddam's WMDs. But GM management are bean counters - business school graduates - don't know anything about cars. That irrefutable fact visibly identified GM as a major reason for America's excessive energy consumption. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management.

The only GM investor who reaped a capital profits is one who bought GM stock in March 1955 because GM products suck. How can that be? Six months ago, GM was touting ‘competitive with Honda and Toyota’? Well GM does these same lies about every five years – and so many consumers believe it for the same reason they believed Saddam had WMDs. Look at the products. Cobalt, G-6 given away by Oprah, Suburban, Volt, Hummer - all crappy products – and no innovations in the GM innovation pipeline.

Is a great investment opportunity approaching? Buy GM cheap. Get rid of their only problem. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Only then do we start addressing the reasons for higher energy prices. GM is an example of the problem that also exists in other American industries, government, and consumers.

Flint · 06-26-2008, 09:56 AM

Even equivalent Hondas got better mileage 20 years ago than they do now. The reason is tighter emissions controls.

View Poll Results: Who is to blame for recent gas price increases?
Market speculators	14	40.00%
Oil companies	13	37.14%
Oil producing countries	8	22.86%
China	10	28.57%
US Automakers	9	25.71%
Lack of refining capacity	10	28.57%
US government/lawmakers	11	31.43%
The Federal Reserve	7	20.00%
Dark Markets	4	11.43%
TheMercenary	7	20.00%
US Consumers	12	34.29%
Other	13	37.14%
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06-26-2008, 08:54 AM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Let them eat lollipops! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-26-2008, 09:56 AM	#3
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Even equivalent Hondas got better mileage 20 years ago than they do now. The reason is tighter emissions controls. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-26-2008, 09:47 AM	#2
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	How bad are GM products? What happens when a company stifles innovation for 30 years, hypes "Buy American", gets the naive to buy a 1995 technology car in 2008 - and praise it ... A GM stock investor now must go back to 1955 to see his capital investment increase. GM stock price reflects how bad GM reliability, design intelligence, and fuel economy really are. GM market capitalization is now so low - a paltry $6.5 billion - that even Sun Microsystems is worth more. Buy GM; sell off its buildings and machines. Reap a profit. GM products suck that much. Is an investment opportunity approaching as GM stock drops to where it should have been 15 years ago? How did we know this problem existed in GM? Their management (who don't have driver's licenses) joined the mental midget in touting hydrogen as a fuel. Anyone with access to any science knew hydrogen as a fuel was as real as Saddam's WMDs. Flex fuel vehicles? More hyped nonsense. GM getting as good as Toyota and Honda – the propaganda only six months ago? More lies. GM management are bean counters - business school graduates - don't know anything about cars. Management so stupid as to even hype hydrogen as a fuel. That irrefutable fact – the hydrogen claim – said GM products were that bad. What happens when a company stifles innovation for 30 years, hypes "Buy American", gets the naive to buy a 1995 technology car in 2008 - and praise it ... A GM stock investor now must go back to 1955 to see his capital investment increase. GM stock price reflects how bad GM reliability, design intelligence, and fuel economy really are. GM market capitalization is now so low - a paltry $6.5 billion - that even Sun Microsystems is worth more. How did we know these problem existed in GM? Their management (who don't have driver's licenses) joined the mental midget in touting hydrogen as a fuel. Anyone with access to any science publication knew hydrogen as a fuel was as real as Saddam's WMDs. But GM management are bean counters - business school graduates - don't know anything about cars. That irrefutable fact visibly identified GM as a major reason for America's excessive energy consumption. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. The only GM investor who reaped a capital profits is one who bought GM stock in March 1955 because GM products suck. How can that be? Six months ago, GM was touting ‘competitive with Honda and Toyota’? Well GM does these same lies about every five years – and so many consumers believe it for the same reason they believed Saddam had WMDs. Look at the products. Cobalt, G-6 given away by Oprah, Suburban, Volt, Hummer - all crappy products – and no innovations in the GM innovation pipeline. Is a great investment opportunity approaching? Buy GM cheap. Get rid of their only problem. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Only then do we start addressing the reasons for higher energy prices. GM is an example of the problem that also exists in other American industries, government, and consumers.

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