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Old 06-14-2008, 07:14 PM   #1
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Please tell me, what is the moderate view on abortion in your mind, and how does it differ from the conservative view?
There is no moderate, liberal or conservative view on abortion- only a morally right one and a morally wrong one. Human life begins at conception and any abortion that is performed when the mother’s life is not endangered by continuing the pregnancy, is murder. The view that any and all abortion is OK is the liberal view only to the extent that this is the view that people who are liberal on other issues tend to support.

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And are you suggesting that McCain is a liberal?
Yes and I think I am far from alone in this.
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Old 06-14-2008, 07:19 PM   #2
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There is no moderate, liberal or conservative view on ________ - only a morally right one and a morally wrong one.
You can find people on this forum who will fill that gap with everything from taxation to universal health-care to the war in Iraq. And, SHAZZAM! we have instant partisan politics.
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:14 PM   #3
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You can find people on this forum who will fill that gap with everything from taxation to universal health-care to the war in Iraq. And, SHAZZAM! we have instant partisan politics.
I am not saying that things like war and the availability of health care are not moral issues, but only fools would equate things like taxation with life and death moral issues like abortion.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:00 PM   #4
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There is no moderate, liberal or conservative view on abortion- only a morally right one and a morally wrong one. Human life begins at conception and any abortion that is performed when the mother’s life is not endangered by continuing the pregnancy, is murder. The view that any and all abortion is OK is the liberal view only to the extent that this is the view that people who are liberal on other issues tend to support.

And yet if that were as true as you so loudly attest that it is, there would be some kind of way you can back that up besides simply declaring it to be so.
you can't, so it isnt. end of story.
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:05 PM   #5
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And yet if that were as true as you so loudly attest that it is, there would be some kind of way you can back that up besides simply declaring it to be so.
you can't, so it isnt. end of story.

How do you know that what I say is not true? How many people who are liberal on other issues are against abortion?
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