Why People Hate You...

[Aliantha]

Why did you bother with that response tw? I'm pretty sure no one actually thinks Brianna is going to go kick some girl in the privates over some petty schoolyard behaviour, regardless of why it's happening. Can you not see that?

I think it's obvious that the girl thinks something Brianna has done is wrong, but that doesn't make it any more valid. Brianna wasn't asking why she's doing it in particular. She wanted to know what to do from here.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I think it's obvious that the girl thinks something Brianna has done is wrong, but that doesn't make it any more valid.

None of that is obvious to me. For example, the girl could exhibit same anti-social behavior now being demonstrated by lumberjim. We have near zero facts to provide Brianna with a useful suggestion especially since nothing on the other girl is provided - including her perspective.

One of so few useful replies was from Cloud. Another surggestion was to first ask some damning questions. "But what is she thinking? What does she see? Why would see be this way?" Without those answers, Brianna and we can only wildly speculate. Not a problem for us. But a problem for Brianna since we also have not suggested how she might accomplish that.

Meanwhile, are some so low life as to even regard 'kick her in the cunt' funny? Well, some also so hated April for only being a misguided teenager (who may have even been calling out for help). In a parallel thread, these same people were challenged to cite a fact that some woman was climbing between balconies on a cruise ship. Again, they only speculated - jumped to conclusions - using only a vague sentence. No wonder they find humor in 'kick her in the cunt'.

Also provided for Brianna were lots of posts and near zero useful suggestions - except violence (which would be funny only to pre-teens).

[Elspode]

Bri, most of what I've read from everyone so far distills down to this: the girl doesn't have a problem with *you*, she has a problem with *herself*. However, since she's at an age where *nothing* could possibly be wrong with her, it must be you.

I'm sure you aren't the only one on her shit list. Probably has few friends who will put up with her, and that's another reason she has to hate you.

I'd tell you to pity her, but then again, I'm not sure you should even put that much energy into it. Just try some visualization. Close your eyes, take several slow, deep breaths, and then begin to visualize her weighing 200 lbs more than she does now, sitting on the broken down, rotting wooden deck of her rusty trailer home, with six snotty children crawling in the dust at her feet as her toothless husband is swinging back his fist for yet another blow to her rancid mouth out of which he's just knocked the Marlboro.

She's creating her own future by behaving in this way...you just have to visualize it.

[Cloud]

people hate me?

oh. yeah.

Brianna: You should not waste any of your emotional coin on her. Ignore her as much as you can. Recognize that people are mean, and let it slide off of you.

[lumberjim]

:::kicks tw in the cunt:::

[Dingleschmutz]

Originally Posted by tw

Buddhist monk shit

Fuckin Asian hippies... Bald American kickassness is ALWAYS the way...

[DanaC]

Bottom line - answers are only based in speculation - seriously hampered due to a perspective only from one pair of eyes. And yet some find that sufficient to recommend violence rather than ask the topmost questions.

Bottom line - a mate seeks advice and a little emotional back-up from the board. She gets it. Obviously it is advice based solely on what Bri has posted here.....well duh...we don't have no CCTV setup in her classroom, we don't have the other girl's telephone number to check the rest o fthe facts....but hey, that's ok, 'cause she ain't our mate, and Bri is.

tw, I respect you enormously, i think you have a very interesting take on the world. But this time I think you are barking rather pointlessly up the wrong tree. Nobody actually advocates violence towards the young lass in Bri's class. The cunt-punt comments are there to make Bri feel better about something that's upset her. Its our way of rallying her, of saying "just ignore the silly bitch, and don't let her get to you".

That's what we're here for. That's what friends are for. In amongst the jokey suggestions to cunt-punt the little cow (see, I have no idea who this girl is, or whether she even displays the slightest bovine tendencies, but she's currently reduced to the phrase 'little cow'.....see how that works?) are serious suggestions as to how Bri can change the way she's looking at the situation. She has no control over this girl's actions, but she has control over how she views the girl's and the extent to which she takes her negativity to heart.

If I turn up at my friend's house, livid and upset by tghe way I've been treated (or the way I perceive that I've been treated) by a work colleague, that friend's job (imo) is to say "ignore the stupid bitch, she'll get bored soon enough".......not, "well are you sure you haven't done something to upset her?".

[Trilby]

because tw brought it up and seems to be seriously interested in my own behaviour here I will tell him: tw, I am very self conscious in class as I am nearly always the oldest student in the room. I am very careful to remember that these are very, very young adults---kids, dare I say?---that I am with. Recalling my own young college days and my own family, I try hard to be kind to them all, knowing all the insecurities and jealousies and pettiness and angst about the grown up world ("what shall i do? will I be able to make a living? what if my boyfriend dumps me? Will he dump me when he finds out I've a wart on my toe? Why do I hate random people?") that they may have. I've done NOTHING to this girl. I've smiled nicely at her when she has made comments about works, I've encouraged her (along with the rest of the class) to share her work, and that's about IT. Now, is it possible that she sees me as some harpie with a loud mouth? No. I rarely say anything in class that isn't related to the work. this is a YOUNG class and they get off topic frequently, talk among themselves frequently (which I do not join in as is inappropriate for someone their mother's age to banter like that about drinking and smoking pot and hooking up, etc) so. NO. I've done nothing to her, said only kind things to her and congratulated her on 'getting into grad school'. She said it was some school in Portland OR. and I said, "oh, that is a lovely place, I think you will really like it there," clearly, a confrontational statement, right tw?

If you had READ my first post, you would see that I explained I'd done nothing that I could see in my most scrutinizing mind to annoy this young woman.
But you don't know how to read. You only know how to write.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Brianna

because tw brought it up and seems to be seriously interested in my own behaviour here I will tell him: tw, I am very self conscious in class as I am nearly always the oldest student in the room.

Posted was only a summary from facts as provided. Any consideration for 'being nice' or consoling or trying to psychoanalyze anyone has no place in what was posted. Provided were conclusions based only upon the facts - nothing more.

I have no interest in Brianna's behavior because it was not relevant. Nothing posted says anything about 'behavior', liking someone, hating someone, or all those other irrelevant details.

Only suggestion was so simple: "But what is she thinking? What does she see? Why would see be this way?" Brianna - where did all your conclusions and emotions come from? Why speculate so much drama from so tiny sentences? How do you see so much when that post was complete devoid of any silly emotions or judgements? I am mildly entertained. A match to only provide enlightenment instead will create a massive explosion. This could be the beginning of a pulp fiction plot line. [Did I mention I bleed only in true blue?]

Meanwhile, "But what is she thinking? What does she see? Why would see be this way?" Did you forget the question?

If you had READ my first post, ... I explained I'd done nothing ... to annoy this young woman.

Unlikely. You even went off on something that was never even posted - and still forgot to answer those simple questions. But again, "But what is she thinking? What does she see? Why would see be this way?" ... because I so enjoy 4th of July fireworks and good drama.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by tw

Meanwhile, "But what is she thinking? What does she see? Why would see be this way?" Did you forget the question? Unlikely.

are you SURE you're not Dick Cheney?

"unlikely"--? Mere speculation. I've denied irritating this woman. You refuse to accept my answer. That is childish. Only a mental midget would read more into the situation than provided by an eye witness.

Go take a shower, tw. I'm sure you need one.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Brianna

are you SURE you're not Dick Cheney?

Becoming obvious is why she hates you and why you did nothing to anger her. Wow. So much anger in a 19 year old.

[Dingleschmutz]

What the hell's a tw, and where's its sense of humor? "Cunt" is the only taboo word left in the world, so it's fun when we've been given carte blanche to use it. That's essentially the purpose of this thread right now, gomer, if we were actually advocating violence, we'd suggest something more practical like slapping da ho.

I'll be serious for once and give my real opinion now. I was an elementary ed major in college, we had several non-traditional (older) students in my class. I enjoyed them as people, but the one main difference between a non-traditional student and a traditional student is that non-traditionals tend to have lives and jobs outside of the school atmosphere and usually only have to focus on one class or so at a time. Not only that, but since they've been in the real world and are coming back to school to get a degree for a job they would actually like, they work harder at it. Traditional students don't have the time to throw two hours at a project when 45 minutes would get us by with a B because we have 8 other classes to juggle and drinking to do. Just an assumption, but I'm guessing you're probably the person who asks the most questions in class and gets the eyeball rolls. It's because you're interested in actually learning the subject matter whereas full-time students are just looking to get by. Full-time college is all about learning how to adapt to the system so you can get that stupid sheet of paper. So yeah, when someone came in and was able to put in twice the time and effort, I got annoyed too because it's threatening. That's where the jealousy is coming from. This girl is probably doing the same thing, but lacks the maturity and empathy to deal with it in a correct manner. She's probably bitching about you back at the sorostitute house, using an inordinate number of uses of the word "like". Ouch, I'm sure that really rocks your world. So who cares, screw her, you're doing nothing wrong, be proud of the reasons you're pissing her off.

[Trilby]

I was a full time student until I got cancer--and even then i tried to be full time. This is the first quarter I've slacked off and it was due to the need for surgery (and the kind of surgery I was to have wouldn't be known until they actually got IN there, so it could have been radical, but, thankfully wasn't) and daily radiation treatments. As a full time student I made all A's. AND I even managed to drink myself nearly to death, just like them.

[Dingleschmutz]

Ha, well, then it's just pettiness. I too still get annoyed with the person in class who's constantly raising her hand for a question. People don't like class to go longer than the bare minimum, and certainly don't like to be reminded that there are much harder workers out there, so I do at least understand her mindset. Basically her system for beating the class doesn't match yours, she knows on some level that your system of actually working at something is better than her system of skating by, and she's immature enough to bitchily voice her opinion about it as a defense mechanism. Doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong, no need to worry about her. She's definitely a prime candidate for a cunt punt, have at it.

[Flint]

But... the topmost questions!