Gentler environment

[Cloud]

very interesting. are there gangs of drunken youths caroming around suburban Britain? or, maybe it's not a paradox--maybe we feel so safe because we have all these guns. dunno.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by Cloud

are there gangs of drunken youths caroming around suburban Britain?

From my experience, most definitely yes. I see rampant displays of racism daily, too: people verbally and, less commonly, physically abusing someone they perceive as foreign.

Hell, my girlfriend and I are about as normal, everyday looking as it gets, and we get taunted quite a lot.

Ah, Newcastle: where the sidewalks run slick with vomit, styrofoam and discarded kebap refuse.

[limey]

Sad but true.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by Cloud

very interesting. are there gangs of drunken youths caroming around suburban Britain?

Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

From my experience, most definitely yes. I see rampant displays of racism daily, too: people verbally and, less commonly, physically abusing someone they perceive as foreign.

Originally Posted by limey

Sad but true.

For the sake of balance.
I have never heard anyone be directly racist to another person in my life. 35 years in England and not one verbal or physical address. I've heard muttered comments. I've heard racist jokes. I've overheard racist views, but they have only been espoused in peer groups - mostly in pubs, mostly by old men. Occasionally unwitting racism from the sort of people who have friends in a different ethnic group but think they must be different - it's "the other type" they have a problem with.

And yes - there is a problem with drink culture in Britain. But again - I have not seen drunken youths "in suburbia". Certainly not where I live. I lived on the main route between the Uni and the city centre in Leicester. Yes, drunken youths did roll up the street in the early hours of the morning. But it was a University town.

And yes I know there are hotspots where people are apparently afraid to go out because of drunken misbehaviour. But the media blow it out of proportion imho. There are areas worldwide where people are afraid to leave their houses. If the worst we have in the UK is that after 23.00 people think they might encounter a bunch of half cut slappers that will fall over on their own, let alone if they're pushed, then I don't see that as dowtown Baghdad.

Oh and the papers love to blame the Govt. And the tabloids love to blame the parents (under the influence of the Govt). And the parents love to blame the teachers. And the teachers blame the parents under the influence of the media. Well if we have such a generation of degenerates I say do a King Herod, slaughter the lot and make people apply for child permits to reproduce in future. That'll halt the damn liberal slide into hell, right?

(Sorry, rant above influenced by Radio 5 phone in last week that I couldn't beleive what I was hearing).

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

Ah, Newcastle: where the sidewalks run slick with vomit, styrofoam and discarded kebap refuse.

sounds like many,many dorm areas I know of....good times.


Also: Perry Winkle: if one were to be invited up to Newcastle, should one bring coal? I've heard this expression many times...

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by Brianna

Also: Perry Winkle: if one were to be invited up to Newcastle, should one bring coal? I've heard this expression many times...

The expression I've heard is that when something is pointless you're "bringing coal to Newcastle." The area around here used to be known for coal mining. They used to also have a thriving manufacturing industry, but I think most of that has died out, hence all the poverty.

North-east England reminds me a lot of the deep south in the States.