Wesley Snipes in court today - Page 4

Radar · 04-25-2008, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

...using the Radar defense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/bu...1ba&ei=5087%0A

Correction, he didn't use the Radar defense. That is why he's going to jail. His mistake was that he wasn't consistent. He didn't file on some years, and did file other years. Claiming you believed you didn't have to and then did, and then didn't again, doesn't do well for your case.

He got 3 years. He'll do 1 and get probation...if that.

The Radar defense is the same defense Joe Bannister used to beat the government when they took him to court for not filing.

Sundae · 04-25-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

So, I'm not sure I understand. They acquitted him on felony conspiracy and tax fraud charges, but they've sentenced him to 3 years in prison on misdemeanor charges?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/bu...snipes.html?hp

One way or another...

xoxoxoBruce · 04-25-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Correction, he didn't use the Radar defense. That is why he's going to jail.

The other two did and got 4.5 and 10 years.

TheMercenary · 04-25-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The other two did and got 4.5 and 10 years.

I love it. I hope they rot.

Radar · 04-25-2008, 10:20 AM

Paying taxes on income isn't patriotic, it isn't legal, and it's not ethical. It is slavery, it's coercion, and it's extortion.

We don't owe any portion of our income to the government, and people don't pay taxes because they think it's a good idea, or because they like the things the government spends that stolen money on. They do it because if they don't, men with guns will come and lock them up. It's no different than the Mafia asking for protection money. Neither of them have a legitimate claim on the money, but they use force or the threat of force against their victims to demand money.

The IRS even says that paying income taxes is voluntary.

TheMercenary · 04-25-2008, 03:39 PM

Great, glad you think that way. You can rot in jail with Mr Snipes, you could be "friends".

spudcon · 04-25-2008, 04:38 PM

OMG! Radar, I agree with you about something! Maybe there is hope in the world.

Radar · 04-25-2008, 05:10 PM

You know who else thought that way? George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Patrick Henry, Paul Revere, John Jay, John Hancock, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, Samuel Adams, Thomas Paine, John Marshall, etc.

classicman · 04-25-2008, 06:27 PM

I'll just ask this - who pays for the roads and parks and gov't salaries and stuff then....? just askin where that $$$ is supposed to come from.

footfootfoot · 04-25-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I'm already spending a fortune on everybody else's kids, whats one more.

EXACTLY why I'm back here. That, and I'm seriously needing some get back from my project.

xo fucking HIGH larious Bee ruce.

footfootfoot · 04-25-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Paying taxes on income isn't patriotic, it isn't legal, and it's not ethical. It is slavery, it's coercion, and it's extortion.

We don't owe any portion of our income to the government, and people don't pay taxes because they think it's a good idea, or because they like the things the government spends that stolen money on. They do it because if they don't, men with guns will come and lock them up. It's no different than the Mafia asking for protection money. Neither of them have a legitimate claim on the money, but they use force or the threat of force against their victims to demand money.

The IRS even says that paying income taxes is voluntary.

a. It's the "golden Rule" principle. I.e. You have the gold, you make the rules.
b. You can voluntarily pay your taxes or you can go to jail. Easy as falling off a rock and often as painful.

My wish is to have a tax bill of half a million dollars based upon my income alone, not penalties or fines. I promise I wouldn't piss and moan. If I make enough $ to have that large a tax bill I gaurantee it wasn't the result of the sweat of my brow. I know how much money a person makes who actually consumes his or her body to make a living. I have also worked in the film industry and I know who does the "work" and who gets the pay. (hint not the same folks) I'd love to make enough money that I'd owe a million in taxes. It wouldn't hurt a bit. YES it's a shakedown, but so what? I'm still making millions of fucking dollars.

spudcon · 04-26-2008, 10:23 AM

When you get rich, Foot, I'll send the mob and Jesse Jackson to your place too. That's if you still don't mind shakedowns by then.

Cicero · 04-26-2008, 10:29 AM

I agree with radar. Historically, taxes have been used as a way to enslave the masses and then guess what? Take your crap anyway. Why not just let the guy pay out and not go to jail. That's all they want, the money. I don't even think it was a crime or moral issue. If you could just shove the money into their greedy mouths and not go to jail that would be awesome.

I wonder how many taxes he has paid? How much money? Probably more than I make in 2 years.

It's funny that it's only a crime not to file when you owe them and not when they owe you.

Radar · 04-26-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I'll just ask this - who pays for the roads and parks and gov't salaries and stuff then....? just askin where that $$$ is supposed to come from.

100% of the Constitutional parts of government (roads, legislature, judiciary, etc.) can be paid for with the tariffs and excise taxes we already collect without raising taxes a single penny.

Income taxes go to pay the interest on the loans the government has taken out from other countries to pay for the unconstitutional parts of government including unconstitutional wars of aggression directed at those who posed no threat to our own.

The American government borrows money in our name, and then gives it away to other countries in food or guns...mostly guns. It arms both sides of every dispute, and sticks our nose where it doesn't belong. It pays for our bloated military that is 8 times larger than it needs to be to defend America well.

Radar · 04-26-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cicero

I agree with radar. Historically, taxes have been used as a way to enslave the masses and then guess what? Take your crap anyway. Why not just let the guy pay out and not go to jail. That's all they want, the money. I don't even think it was a crime or moral issue. If you could just shove the money into their greedy mouths and not go to jail that would be awesome.

I wonder how many taxes he has paid? How much money? Probably more than I make in 2 years.

They want to make an example of him, and of anyone that doesn't allow them to steal the fruits of your labor without a fight.

04-25-2008, 10:20 AM	#50
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Paying taxes on income isn't patriotic, it isn't legal, and it's not ethical. It is slavery, it's coercion, and it's extortion. We don't owe any portion of our income to the government, and people don't pay taxes because they think it's a good idea, or because they like the things the government spends that stolen money on. They do it because if they don't, men with guns will come and lock them up. It's no different than the Mafia asking for protection money. Neither of them have a legitimate claim on the money, but they use force or the threat of force against their victims to demand money. The IRS even says that paying income taxes is voluntary. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

04-25-2008, 03:39 PM	#51
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Great, glad you think that way. You can rot in jail with Mr Snipes, you could be "friends". __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

04-25-2008, 05:10 PM	#53
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	You know who else thought that way? George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Patrick Henry, Paul Revere, John Jay, John Hancock, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, Samuel Adams, Thomas Paine, John Marshall, etc. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

04-25-2008, 06:27 PM	#54
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I'll just ask this - who pays for the roads and parks and gov't salaries and stuff then....? just askin where that $$$ is supposed to come from. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-26-2008, 10:29 AM	#58
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I agree with radar. Historically, taxes have been used as a way to enslave the masses and then guess what? Take your crap anyway. Why not just let the guy pay out and not go to jail. That's all they want, the money. I don't even think it was a crime or moral issue. If you could just shove the money into their greedy mouths and not go to jail that would be awesome. I wonder how many taxes he has paid? How much money? Probably more than I make in 2 years. It's funny that it's only a crime not to file when you owe them and not when they owe you. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

04-25-2008, 04:38 PM	#52
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	OMG! Radar, I agree with you about something! Maybe there is hope in the world.

04-26-2008, 10:23 AM	#57
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	When you get rich, Foot, I'll send the mob and Jesse Jackson to your place too. That's if you still don't mind shakedowns by then.

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