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Old 04-12-2008, 11:24 PM   #1
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The poorer the people, the fewer their options, the easier they are to provoke into hate.
Poor -- disconnected from the flow of money; fewer options -- disconnected from the flow of ideas; not able to move to better territory where the economy actually works -- disconnected from mobility or migratory flow of people; in danger -- disconnected from what some call the flow of security.

The freedom of these "flows" to be exported from the places where there is a great sufficiency, or indeed a surplus, to places where there is a deficit, is a working indicator of how well a place or people is connected with the functional part of the world as a whole.

Establish this kind of connectedness in place of disconnectedness, and prosperity results. Prosperity balms the wounds resulting from being disconnected to the rest of the world.

The recent evacuations of children from the west Texas Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints compound is a repair of a problem of acute disconnectedness. Those are some wounded people there. We'll have to show them where the balm is. Tw would no doubt remark that eighty-five percent of the FLDS's problems stemmed from its top management, which quite deliberately mandated complete disconnectedness from motivations that look baser by the day.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:28 AM   #2
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Tw would no doubt remark that eighty-five percent of the FLDS's problems stemmed from its top management, which quite deliberately mandated complete disconnectedness from motivations that look baser by the day.
According to UG, these people were fully informed and chose to fear the world. They had information sources besides what they were told by church leaders? Yes, according to UG. Nonsense, according to reality.

Reality: top management kept them isolated from reality so that the victims did not understand and therefore feared reality. Being sex slave was acceptable. Such is the world that UG loves - a world promoted by fear - the myth of 'good verses evil' where outsiders or muslims or immigrants or non-hetrosexuals are evil. UG will even rewrite the Pentagon Papers - and nobody would notice? Perverting reality is so normal that UG would even claim to be a ... libertarian.

UG is classic of those who love the scumbag George Jr and Cheney. No way around reality. Why would UG not endorse, promote, and praise the west Texas Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints? After all, they only advocate many principles that UG also advocates. But in doing so, UG would contradict well comprehended reality. UG also conceded to a principles called propaganda. One cannot be popular and support what the west Texas Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints have done. So UG must separate himself from what he also defines as a ... 'libertarians'.

Even UG propaganda cannot 'subvert' reality - the details - screwing children to propagate an agenda. Hundreds of victims directly traceable to a world where top management kept their victims isolated and ignorant. UG fears a world where the little people learn - ask embarrassing questions such as 'why'. After all, Hitler also needed people to only believe what they were told. No wonder UG also so admires Cheney.

What makes it so amusing to pick apart UG logic? He has no idea of a world beyond his political agenda. His poltics are, for others, a lesson in what intolerance looks like. UG posts are devoid of reality - and so fully justified by political mantra. UG will never accept that 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. If he admitted to that reality, then a dictatorship that he advocates could not happen.

As Sundae Girl notes, the poorer those people, then the easier it is to provoke them into hate. UG fears to admit this because hate is part of his poltical mantra.

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Old 04-14-2008, 09:57 PM   #3
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I have no need to "subvert reality." I merely stay better connected with it than you do, tw. The quote you cite states the opposite of the conclusion you draw. Silly, aren't you? But it gets better: then you go on to contradict that conclusion and in essence if perhaps not some details, agree with me: these people were kept in an acutely disconnected condition. Which is again nothing more or else than what I already said.

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UG will never accept that 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management.
Try running a search on posts by me that allude to the 85%-attributable-etc. idea for the refutation of this idea. The truth is, I accept it as at least plausible, and have made some explicit use of the concept. Tw, you're very reliable at two things: getting it wrong, and misreading others' motives and statements. Thus you disgrace yourself and undermine all your arguments. That's what you do: you are drawn into making yourself look bad like iron filings around a magnet. It is, it seems, a law of nature that the people who frenetically attack me end up with blood and egg on their faces in roughly equal parts.

The rest of your post is such scrambled ranting as to be the product not of a brain, but of a brain tumor. You are very much in a hurry to attribute fear, hate, and so forth to others, aren't you? Ever heard of projection? A man hip deep in denial would do well to worry about the crocodiles there.

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. . .hate is part of his poltical mantra.
Let's see: of us two, who is the one ranting, raving, spewing, hating, and generally acting like an angry chimpanzee again? I know the face of hatred, tw, and I know where I am concerned, hatred rules and controls you. Therefore I despise you, yes. And yes, I speak against certain things because I find them unsatisfactory.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:32 AM   #4
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Let's see: of us two, who is the one ranting, raving, spewing, hating, and generally acting like an angry chimpanzee again? I know the face of hatred, tw, and I know where I am concerned, hatred rules and controls you. Therefore I despise you, yes.


This is a little overboard, even for you.
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