Berkeley City Council Doing Its Anti-Democracy Bit

[aimeecc]

The "Travel to Exotic Lands. Meet Exciting and Unusual People -- And Kill Them" quote is a copy from 1960s anti-Vietnam posters.

Too bad the protesters haven't figured out that Marines aren't the ones that declare war. Their protest has no larger impact than annoying an office of Marines, and pissing a few people off that they are so stupid.

Again, why aren't they protesting at their state representatives office? That's the appropriate forum.

I have no problem with protesters. I do have a problem with protesters that take their frustration out on the wrong people.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by aimeecc

Again, why aren't they protesting at their state representatives office? That's the appropriate forum.

I have no problem with protesters. I do have a problem with protesters that take their frustration out on the wrong people.

They seem to be more effective at getting their message heard this way You are on the other side of the country, and you have heard their message. It's working.

[lookout123]

They seem to be more effective at getting their message heard this way You are on the other side of the country, and you have heard their message. It's working.

Getting the message heard is not the same thing as bringing someone over to your way of thinking. My guess is that most people who have heard about this who aren't already strongly and resolutely anti-war were turned off by this form of protest.

the method of protest/argument DOES matter. Think it doesn't? Think about some of the points that Radar argues. If he were to drop the "I'm right and you're stupid approach" followed up with repeating the previous point with larger type, would you have such a strong gut reaction of disagreement with his posts?

[glatt]

I'd agree with that.

Phelps and the Westborough Baptist Church are good at getting their message heard too, but are converting no-one. These guys are the flip side of that same coin.

[lookout123]

exactly. i grew up attending a baptist church. although it had issues, it was a good church with good people trying to follow new testament teachings. because of the asshatery of phelps and his ilk, "baptist" is a pretty big insult these days.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by lookout123

My guess is that most people who have heard about this who aren't already strongly and resolutely anti-war were turned off by this form of protest.

Thats true from what I've heard. The most anti-war people I know don't protest because they just see it as a way to feel good about yourself and not actually change something.

[deadbeater]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Thats true from what I've heard. The most anti-war people I know don't protest because they just see it as a way to feel good about yourself and not actually change something.

The anti-war people turn to the Marine base because the president, vice-president and the nominee for the Republican party are not listening.