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Old 02-04-2008, 10:14 PM   #1
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A five year old can shuffle a deck of cards. Since half of the population is not in a coma or under the age of five, doubling the work week will have a bigger positive effect than the negative effect of counting out those unable to shuffle.

But if you don't like that one, then how about you add in population growth, since people will have all this spare time to boink each other? Hey, you're the one who wants to make this happen, I'm just trying to think outside the box for you.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:40 PM   #2
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A five year old can shuffle a deck of cards. Since half of the population is not in a coma or under the age of five, doubling the work week will have a bigger positive effect than the negative effect of counting out those unable to shuffle.

But if you don't like that one, then how about you add in population growth, since people will have all this spare time to boink each other? Hey, you're the one who wants to make this happen, I'm just trying to think outside the box for you.
Basically, everyone on the Earth is not going to drop everything and shuffle cards all day. We couldn't even survive that for very long. So, in taking the total poulation of the Earth as my number, I'm making an impossibly generous concession, in order to imagine this actually happening. The 40-hour week is something familiar to us; I'm trying to put it in real terms.

If you like, I could go back to having each person shuffle an exponential amount of decks every second...
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:08 PM   #3
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The 40-hour week is something familiar to us;
that's less than 1/3 of the hours in a week....what do you do with all of that free time? ya know....it sounds appealing....
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:06 AM   #4
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My interest with perfect shuffling started with a simple observation that the standard poker deck containing 52 cards will come back to its or original order if riffle shuffled precisely interleaving the two 26 haves 8 times.
So on the ninth time, the shuffle will be the same as the first shuffle.

He expects a "perfect riffle shuffle", though.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:28 AM   #5
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everyone on the Earth is not going to drop everything and shuffle cards all day. We couldn't even survive that for very long.
Why should you start injecting reality and common sense into this discussion at this late date?? You might as well start thinking about whether those monkeys with the typewriters have had touch typing classes or not.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:40 AM   #6
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Okay, I hear what people are saying. You want more shuffles getting done, okay. Let’s look at that.

I’m going by HLJ’s calculation (I’m too lazy to do it myself) that in 9.e+33 permutations you would have a 50% chance of repeating the same shuffle.

I’m using the entire population of planet Earth (6,648,429,413), and I’ll have them shuffle one deck of cards per second, year-round. It would take 42,925,646,062,489,266.972805985537223 years to get through 9.e+33 permutations.

How long is that? Well, the Earth is estimated to be 4.54 billion years old. It’s 9,454,988.1194910279675784109112819 times longer than that.

So, if every living person on the Earth shuffled one deck of cards per second, for 9 million times longer than the Earth has existed, there would be a 50% chance of the same shuffle coming up.

THE SAME EXACT SHUFFLE HAS NEVER HAPPENED, AND NEVER WILL HAPPEN. EVER.
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