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Old 01-24-2008, 09:43 AM   #1
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The government is your servant no more than your parents are. The government is that which tells you what to do.
And why should your being or not being a minor matter? Why do we deem it appropriate to deny a huge percentage of our people rights?

or do human rights only apply conditionally... to those old enough to deserve them?
The valid role and scope of governmental power is only to carry out what rights we have as individuals but have granted to government. Government may never tell us what to do unless our actions violate the person, rights, or property of non-consenting others. The valid role and scope of parental powers is to make each and every single decision regarding the lives and safety of their children from birth until the moment they move out on their own.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:03 AM   #2
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The valid role and scope of parental powers is to make each and every single decision regarding the lives and safety of their children from birth until the moment they move out on their own.
Wow really? So the first decision your "child" makes will be after she moves out of your home? I gotta believe I'm misreading this.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:37 AM   #3
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The valid role and scope of parental powers is to make each and every single decision
regarding the lives and safety of their children from birth until the moment they move out on their own.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:41 PM   #4
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Flint, thanks for the unnecessary clarification.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:58 AM   #5
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Flint, thanks for the unnecessary clarification.
Bullshit. You quoted someone and added your own bold type, to skew the meaning towards what you wanted to argue about. So I did the same thing, but highlighed a different section, to reinforce the information you tried to ignore. If you don't like that, then don't try to spin quotes.
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it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your
expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:28 PM   #6
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Bullshit. You quoted someone and added your own bold type, to skew the meaning towards what you wanted to argue about. So I did the same thing, but highlighed a different section, to reinforce the information you tried to ignore. If you don't like that, then don't try to spin quotes.
I didn't try to spin shit and I really don't appreciate the inference either. I wanted to discuss the part I highlighted - thats all, nothing more.
Radar replied to me without any attitude and I think we both knew/know what we were talking about. Thanks though and BS right back atcha.
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:58 PM   #7
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In that case, I apologize for assuming that your misdirection was deliberate; not due to poor reading comprehension, as you insist.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:05 PM   #8
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The valid role and scope of parental powers is to make each and every single decision regarding the lives and safety of their children from birth until the moment they move out on their own.
Fail

The 'job' of a parent is to nurture the new member of the human race they have chosen to spawn, providing them with the increasing knowledge, experience and self reliance so that when they eventually become a fully responsible member of society they are equipped to take on that role and be a personally fulfilled citizen.
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