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Doctor Wtf
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2007 Government Surveillance Map
From New Scientist, the 2007 Government Surveillance Map:
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![]() P.S.: Just noticed ... where is Vietnam? It not even in gray! Maybe we did bomb it right off the map after all.
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Doctor Wtf
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Still looks missing to me. Matter of fact, Laos appears to be AWOL too.
But I have figured out that the reason a lot of countries haven't been given colours, is that there is no colour darker than black. What colour could you do North Korea, where making international phone calls is a capital offense?
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They may also have left off countries for which no information was available.
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Franklin Pierce
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I thought those were the gray countries?
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I think that's what all the gray countries are supposed to be.
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that might be the gray countries?
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Yes, I'm pretty sure that is what the gray countries are.
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It's the gray countries that give them away, isn't it. It's not hard to find information on them.
Maybe the Committee to Protect Journalists top-10 list of the world's worst censors shines some light on the situation. ALL OF THE COUNTRIES THEY LIST ARE GRAY on the NS map. It strikes me as obvious that part of the problem is listening in, but the bigger problem is what the consequences are. And if the state controls the media they are surely listening in. 1 North Korea Quote:
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Wait. So is it the gray countries, or not?
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My new theory is that some unpaid intern from "Privacy International" actually colored this map for their boss, and they did it in MS Paint, and there was a pixel-or-two gap in the border of Vietnam so when they filled the oceans white it filled in 'Nam too. Their website certainly proves there are no graphics gurus working over there. I'm betting the guy who did last year's map (which does have Vietnam) isn't there anymore.
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Radical Centrist
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That's not forward-thinking, because normally when you do a really top-rate bullshit job like this, donations go up. They should really spare no expense with their bullshit, like Amnesty Int'l does.
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Franklin Pierce
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UT, I don't disagree what you are saying but why wouldn't they add gray to the key then?
And why would Antarctica be on there? I always new the Antarctican government was censoring their people, but I didn't think it was that bad. |
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Here's the fine detail page:
http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597 Ah shit, the link didn't work, you'll have to cut and paste it. They have a table that explains their bullshit in great hilarious detail. I'll hotlink it from their server, below: |
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