There are no illegal immigrants in America

[TheMercenary]

The Constitution of The United States of America only applies to legal citizens of the US, not to illegal aliens who are basically criminals.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The Constitution of The United States of America only applies to legal citizens of the US, not to illegal aliens who are basically criminals.

What?

If the Constitution, the very basis upon which all our other laws are founded, does not apply to non citizens, what does apply? What other laws apply if our Constitution does not?

[Radar]

Originally Posted by BigV

What?

If the Constitution, the very basis upon which all our other laws are founded, does not apply to non citizens, what does apply? What other laws apply if our Constitution does not?

It does apply. They are merely attempting to dehumanize others and suggest that merely being born in America entitles you to more rights than someone else. Humans are born with rights. Those rights don't come from governments. The Constitution was written to limit the power and authority of government and to defend the rights of all people who are governed by the United States....this of course applies to the undocumented and LEGAL immigrants who came here without checking in with Uncle Sam.

[Radar]

Now that we have settled this and we all know the Constitution defends the rights of all people governed in the United States, and that the federal government has zero Constitutional authority over immigration we can finally put this thread to rest.

[binky]

Originally Posted by Radar

Now that we have settled this and we all know the Constitution defends the rights of all people governed in the United States, and that the federal government has zero Constitutional authority over immigration we can finally put this thread to rest.

YES PLEASE

[Radar]

Originally Posted by binky

YES PLEASE

Thank you. So it's settled. ALL PEOPLE living within the borders of the United States have the same Constitutional protection of their rights and the federal government has absolutely no Constitutional authority over immigration.

End of story.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Radar

Now that we have settled this and we all know the Constitution defends the rights of all people governed in the United States, and that the federal government has zero Constitutional authority over immigration we can finally put this thread to rest.

My dear radar - you nutty lil fruitcake - please, please, please at least keep your dignity.

( yeah, I stole ur smilie)

[Radar]

Originally Posted by classicman

My dear radar - you nutty lil fruitcake - please, please, please at least keep your dignity.

( yeah, I stole ur smilie)

dignity? When did I get that? I certainly want to keep that.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by BigV

What?

If the Constitution, the very basis upon which all our other laws are founded, does not apply to non citizens, what does apply? What other laws apply if our Constitution does not?

Written by, and intended for the citizens of the United States. It was not written for people of Mexico, Canada, Japan, or China. Once legal migrants come here and become US citizens they are afforded all the rights of our Constitution as it was written. It was not written for the ciminals to enter our country illegally.

WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, 1
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1 It is important to notice that this is a government of the people, not of the States. Under the Articles of Confederation, in effect as our first form of "national" government, agreed to by the Continental Congress on November 15,1777 and in force after ratification by Maryland on March 1, 1782 until the ratification of the Constitution for the United States in 1788 and George Washington's inauguration as the nation's first President under the Constitution on April 30, 1789, the States as political entities, and not the people, entered into "a firm league of friendship", each State retaining "its sovereignty, freedom and independence." The new Constitution for the United States brought in a new Nation, the United States of America, deriving its "just powers from the consent of the governed."

"The people, the highest authority known to our system," said President Monroe, "from whom all our institutions spring and whom they depend, formed it."

"Its language, 'We the People,' is the institution of one great consolidated National government of the people of all the States, instead of a government by compact with the States for its agents," exclaimed Patrick Henry in the Virginia ratifying assembly while leading opposition to its adoption, "The people gave the [Constitutional] Convention no power to use their name." Some States restricted the authority of their delegates to revising the Articles of Confederation. It was claimed that the casting aside of the Articles of Confederation (which could be altered or amended only by the concurrence of every State) for a constitution to become effective when adopted by nine of the thirteen States was revolutionary. It was, in fact, a coup d'Etat. Revision only was uppermost in the minds of many. On February 21, 1787, the Congress existing under the Articles called a convention "for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation and reporting to Congress and the several legislatures such alterations and provisions therein as shall, when agreed to in Congress and confirmed by the States, render the federal Constitution adequate to the exigencies of government and the preservation of the Union." But it was the belief of the Constitutional Convention that as the new instrument was to go to the people for ratification or rejection, the objections stated by Henry and others were really unimportant.

http://www.barefootsworld.net/constit1.html