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Old 01-02-2008, 10:10 PM   #1
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Rrriight, but the US Constitution protects the rights of US Citizens.
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No, it protects the rights of THE PEOPLE...all people living within the United States.
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The Constitution of the United States of America
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
That clearly states that the US constitution is for the citizens of the US ONLY - pretty effin clear.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:16 PM   #2
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That clearly states that the US constitution is for the citizens of the US ONLY - pretty effin clear.
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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The people of the United States = The people living in the United States.

It doesn't say "We the citizens of the United States".
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:27 PM   #3
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The people of the United States = The people living in the United States.
That is nothing more than your opinion.

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We the people of the United States
not in, it clearly states OF

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ourselves and our posterity
- again not the it plainly states OURSELVES and OUR

either it is clear to you that it refers to the citizens OF the US or it is up for interpretation.
Either way, your argument is refuted, again.


PS - This is the point where you typically change your argument again.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:33 PM   #4
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The people of the United States = The people living in the United States.

It doesn't say "We the citizens of the United States".
For the sake of clarity - indulge me one more time.
They did not state "the people living within the boudaries of the United States" because that is NOT what they meant - very clearly, they meant the citizens of the US.

It is so crystal clear I don't understand how someone purportedly "smarter than Supreme Court justices" cannot see it.
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