Latest Iraq thread - Page 2

TheMercenary · 12-23-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by slang

TW? Your comment on the remotely encouraging or positive reports back from Iraq?

Who freaking cares. Another manifesto from tw is not contributing.

Griff · 12-23-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

So wait, lemme get this straight...
the brits pull out
the iraqis take over
it goes well
...and bush is right somehow?

My preferred narrative would be that the American and British militaries saved W from his misguided ideas.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-23-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Well said R.j. I just wish our leaders were willing to acknowlege the complexity before sticking their noses under the tent.

Absolutely. We should have never attacked Iraq. It was a bad idea compounded by bad planning.

That said, it happened and sadly, we broke it. So rather than beating a dead horse, I'd rather look for solutions to the problem.
The few encouraging points of light, (that tw would wrongly call, feel good stories fabricated by the administration... Vietnam, deja vu), seem to be caused by some competent commanders that have their shit together.

Also, the Iraqis seem to have come to the conclusion that the US is not the only outside influence, but the lesser evil and a useful tool in eliminating the others. I think the realize the US will go home, if they can control their country.

It's a clusterfuck, I don't like it, but it is reality.

Griff · 12-23-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

.., seem to be caused by some competent commanders that have their shit together...

I think the key is that those individuals have proven their integrity to the folks they interact with. Pronouncements from Washington are meaningless, but a promise made in country by someone with known integrity and competence could carry the day.

Undertoad · 12-23-2007, 01:14 PM

Iraqi oil exports are now greater than pre-war levels.

Griff · 12-23-2007, 01:48 PM

Under the UN's food for oil regime?

Undertoad · 12-23-2007, 01:58 PM

Yes

TheMercenary · 12-23-2007, 02:00 PM

And how much goes to the US in our quest for oil since that is why we invaded them, right?

I venture to say little to none compared to pre-war amounts.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-23-2007, 02:03 PM

Your probably right, but every barrel that goes on the world market creates less competition for what we buy.

TheMercenary · 12-23-2007, 02:19 PM

Possible, but I still think there are wacko's out there that beleive that we invaded Iraq for oil. Hell we just need to invade Alaska. Wait, we already own it.

classicman · 12-23-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Another manifesto from tw is not contributing.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Iraqi oil exports are now greater than pre-war levels.

Very interesting and a positive step, but what is the situation with Iraq's own power/electricity generation?

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

And how much goes to the US in our quest for oil since that is why we invaded them, right?
I venture to say little to none compared to pre-war amounts.

That is even more encouraging.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Possible, but I still think there are wacko's out there that beleive that we invaded Iraq for oil.

Rk's input on this particular topic would be interesting.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-23-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Possible, but I still think there are wacko's out there that beleive that we invaded Iraq for oil. Hell we just need to invade Alaska. Wait, we already own it.

Pssst. cough canada cough

TheMercenary · 12-23-2007, 08:14 PM

Let me dust off those ole plans: http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=492

classicman · 12-23-2007, 10:31 PM

lol

regular.joe · 12-24-2007, 12:03 AM

That's right we can always blame Canada.

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12-23-2007, 02:03 PM	#24
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12-23-2007, 02:19 PM	#25
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Possible, but I still think there are wacko's out there that beleive that we invaded Iraq for oil. Hell we just need to invade Alaska. Wait, we already own it. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

12-23-2007, 08:14 PM	#28
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Let me dust off those ole plans: http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=492 __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

12-23-2007, 01:14 PM	#20
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Iraqi oil exports are now greater than pre-war levels.

12-23-2007, 01:58 PM	#22
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Yes

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