Carter: America tortures

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

First off, Kitsune, your use of the pooh-poohing quotemarks is wholly illegitimate, and I'll thank you to stop. It is a tactic of the America-must-lose-because-it's -- well -- America faction, and those people think only in fascist drivel.

My use of the quotation marks stems from the many varied ideas of what winning this war means to the many different people involved. Depending on who you speak to, we're fighting actions, we're fighting ideas, and/or we're fighting a religion or religious extremists. We are not fighting a traditional war, we are not fighting an organized army, we are not fighting any nation. The edges of the scope of winning are even more blurred in what it involves, depending on your point of view, and are as narrow as Iraq and Afghanistan or as wide as all of the middle east and expands, perhaps, to ideas and concepts embedded in populations worldwide. It is just as multifaceted and has just as many potential (as well as seemingly unreachable) ends as our decades long War on Drugs. I'd simply like to know how you define a win for The United States and what would determine this ordeal to be over with.

I did not realize the use of quotation marks in this fashion was a known tactic of The Enemy. I'll take note of it and, in the future, be sure to remain suspicious of anyone I witness doing it in writing or marking quote mark motions in the air with their fingers when discussing such matters.