Carter: America tortures

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

As of 9/11, everything changed.

Not everything. Torture is still wrong.

We face a newly exposed enemy that has a quite different nature than any we've encountered before, requiring a different type of war.

The nature of the enemy is irrelevant. Torture is about the nature of ourselves. If that changed after 9-11, then we need to change it back.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Not everything. Torture is still wrong.

That didn't change, just the definition did. The government defined it up... and you're defining it down.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

That didn't change, just the definition did. The government defined it up... and you're defining it down.

I'm leaving it where it was. The government "defining it up" is an admission of guilt.