Carter: America tortures

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I totally disagree.

We're so firmly in semantics-land here, that just to say what we do is "torture" puts us in moral equivalence with, you know, actual torture, things that nobody disagrees is torture.

You've got it wrong. "Things that nobody disagrees is torture" is essentially the set of things that Al Qaeda does that we don't. You're the one in semantics-land, Mr. "Stuff your mama did to you as a kid".

Yay us that we aren't as bad as Al Qaeda, but it doesn't excuse the things that we do.