US Episcopal Church=PunkAssBitch

Asking why I posted it is not discussion.
Try again Dr. ad hominem.

[Griff]

Can you feel the love tonight?
The peace the evening brings
The world, for once, in perfect harmony
With all its living things
Can you feel the love tonight?
You needn't look too far
Stealing through the night's uncertainties
Love is where they are

[Griff]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Asking why I posted it is not discussion.
Try again Dr. ad hominem.

Is what you do Poisoning the Well?

The American Episcopal Church is evolving. They are breaking with long-standing traditions and beliefs, some back-sliding is to be expected. Your hatred of religion blinds you to the fact that all bureacracies have difficulty changing. I wish they could make positive change happen seamlessly, but they can't they are people like you and me. People are not perfect.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Griff

The American Episcopal Church is evolving. They are breaking with long-standing traditions and beliefs, some back-sliding is to be expected. Your hatred of religion blinds you

That's true. The American Episcopal church is the most liberal and accepting of all the major churches. And this is the one rkzenrage is attacking?

The only reason this is in the news is because they are talking about what role gays should have in church leadership. In the leadership!! Other religions don't even want you as a member if you are openly gay, let alone in the leadership.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by glatt

The only reason this is in the news is because they are talking about what role gays should have in church leadership. In the leadership!! Other religions don't even want you as a member if you are openly gay, let alone in the leadership.

And not just religions. Look at what happens when sportsmen come out.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

And not just religions. Look at what happens when sportsmen come out.

they sell books?

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by lookout123

they sell books?

True. Lousy pretend gheys.

[lookout123]

who said they were pretend? i was just thinking of the basketball player last year that wrote a book to come out. my thought was, and is, who cares? you're a has been athlete, do i really care who you're bumping and grinding with?
i don't care who is gay or straight.

Originally Posted by glatt

That's true. The American Episcopal church is the most liberal and accepting of all the major churches. And this is the one rkzenrage is attacking?

The only reason this is in the news is because they are talking about what role gays should have in church leadership. In the leadership!! Other religions don't even want you as a member if you are openly gay, let alone in the leadership.

The one?
You must only be reading a few threads.
I have always thought the argument that an organization, party, anything, was doing X amount of good outweighs any negative thing they do, no matter how heinous and/or hypocritical, and makes them immune to criticism. It is a ridiculous statement.
Try again.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Asking why I posted it is not discussion.
Try again Dr. ad hominem.

i didn't ask you why you posted it. try reading my post before you get all defensive. I asked you why it pissed you off badly enough to post it. I'm still curious.

you don't believe in what that church believes? cool.
you don't want to join? cool.
you think they are full off shit? cool.
they don't want gays in leadership? cool. it is their club, let them have it. why does it piss you off so badly that a club based on ideas you don't believe in doesn't want a certain person in a leadership position?

in theory i could understand a member of the church being upset that a gay priest they know isn't allowed a leadership position because he's gay... but you aren't a member. you're just a hater.