Al Franken...is this for real? - Page 2

zippyt · 09-07-2007, 08:53 PM

he is the Prince Mongo of the election .

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-08-2007, 04:46 AM

High negatives, though -- he's the sort of guy the voters love to vote against. This will sink him without trace.

TheMercenary · 09-13-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

AL FRANKEN FOR U.S. SENATE
Is this already being discussed somewhere on the Cellar? If not, why not?

Now that if funny as hell. He is a joke. Now he wants to join the longest running comedy show ever.

Shawnee123 · 09-13-2007, 11:28 AM

He'll never make it. His IQ is too high to be president (precedent set by president.)

Flint · 09-13-2007, 11:29 AM

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Now he wants to join the longest running comedy show ever.

The Onion is running a story right now: "Clinton Blasts Obama for Slamming Edwards Jab" . . . ha ha ha

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-14-2007, 07:52 AM

Shawnee, check Woodrow Wilson's IQ if you're looking for a Presidential precedent.

It is folly to assume that party affiliation either reflects or affects intelligence.

Shawnee123 · 09-14-2007, 07:54 AM

I was assuming neither. He's a pretty smart guy. The current president is a not so smart guy. Party irrelevant. Pretty simple.

But I do like me some folly.

Flint · 12-19-2008, 09:44 AM

Yeah, I guess this was for real. Some sources have theis race as close as two votes.

barefoot serpent · 12-19-2008, 10:07 AM

and here they are

plus the 'lizard people' ballot

classicman · 12-19-2008, 01:18 PM

Those are great - thanks BS

glatt · 12-19-2008, 01:41 PM

Yeah, they actually were very interesting ballots to see. For several of them, you can't get a sense of what the voter intended until you view the pdf of the entire ballot and see the logic the voter was using. Then the craziness actually makes some sense and you can see what the voter wanted. But in an antagonistic system like an election and later a lawsuit, you can see why even when the voter intent is clear, someone is going to dispute a ballot because the rules weren't followed.

lookout123 · 12-19-2008, 02:00 PM

Very interesting. stupid, but interesting. if they are supposed to clearly and cleanly fill in the circle or ask for a new ballot in case of a mistake and they could do neither properly, the ballot shouldn't be counted.

glatt · 12-19-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Very interesting. stupid, but interesting. if they are supposed to clearly and cleanly fill in the circle or ask for a new ballot in case of a mistake and they could do neither properly, the ballot shouldn't be counted.

Except the Minnesota guidelines for counting votes say that if you can tell the intent of the voter, the neatness of the ballot doesn't matter.

lookout123 · 12-19-2008, 02:13 PM

I know that's what it says and that's what they're trying to do. I'm just saying the law should be changed. If you're too stupid to scribble in a circle and barring that, ask for another ballot, you don't deserve to have your vote counted.

glatt · 12-19-2008, 02:19 PM

I can't argue with that.

Actually, that's not true. I could argue with that, but my heart wouldn't be in it.

09-07-2007, 08:53 PM	#16
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	he is the Prince Mongo of the election . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-08-2007, 04:46 AM	#17
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	High negatives, though -- he's the sort of guy the voters love to vote against. This will sink him without trace. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

09-13-2007, 11:28 AM	#19
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	He'll never make it. His IQ is too high to be president (precedent set by president.) __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

09-14-2007, 07:54 AM	#22
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I was assuming neither. He's a pretty smart guy. The current president is a not so smart guy. Party irrelevant. Pretty simple. But I do like me some folly. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-19-2008, 09:44 AM	#23
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Yeah, I guess this was for real. Some sources have theis race as close as two votes. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

09-14-2007, 07:52 AM	#21
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Shawnee, check Woodrow Wilson's IQ if you're looking for a Presidential precedent. It is folly to assume that party affiliation either reflects or affects intelligence.

12-19-2008, 10:07 AM	#24
barefoot serpent go ahead, abbrev. it Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lawrence, KS Posts: 2,623	and here they are plus the 'lizard people' ballot __________________ Chooses rowing vs. wading

12-19-2008, 01:18 PM	#25
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Those are great - thanks BS __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-19-2008, 01:41 PM	#26
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yeah, they actually were very interesting ballots to see. For several of them, you can't get a sense of what the voter intended until you view the pdf of the entire ballot and see the logic the voter was using. Then the craziness actually makes some sense and you can see what the voter wanted. But in an antagonistic system like an election and later a lawsuit, you can see why even when the voter intent is clear, someone is going to dispute a ballot because the rules weren't followed.

12-19-2008, 02:00 PM	#27
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Very interesting. stupid, but interesting. if they are supposed to clearly and cleanly fill in the circle or ask for a new ballot in case of a mistake and they could do neither properly, the ballot shouldn't be counted. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

12-19-2008, 02:13 PM	#29
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	I know that's what it says and that's what they're trying to do. I'm just saying the law should be changed. If you're too stupid to scribble in a circle and barring that, ask for another ballot, you don't deserve to have your vote counted. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

12-19-2008, 02:19 PM	#30
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I can't argue with that. Actually, that's not true. I could argue with that, but my heart wouldn't be in it.

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