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[Cicero]

I heard that anti-psychotics made normal people psychotic. This is all.......

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Cicero

I heard that anti-psychotics made normal people psychotic. This is all.......

No, they don't. It's medicine, not homeopathy*.

You'll get some of the effects that don't directly address the psychotic symptoms, like the voices ... you will probably get sleepy, and may even experience some of the side effects.









* The notion behind homeopathy is that you are given a substance that will causethe symptom you are having, and somehow magically cure it. More than magically, actually, because the mixture is so dilute that no molecules of the original substance remain in the homeopathic solution.

[Cicero]

[quote=wolf;381464]You'll get some of the effects that don't directly address the psychotic symptoms, like the voices ... you will probably get sleepy, and may even experience some of the side effects.
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So if a normal person takes it they will experience "the voices" and side effects?

This is confusing....

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Cicero

So if a normal person takes it they will experience "the voices" and side effects?

This is confusing....

Nope, no voices. By side effects I mean things like walking funny, drooling, twitching, and not being able to maintain an erection ... and you wonder why it's hard to keep psychiatric patients on their medications.

[Crimson Ghost]

Originally Posted by wolf

By side effects I mean things like walking funny, drooling, twitching, and not being able to maintain an erection ...

I did not know that Bob Dole was a side effect...

[jinx]

Originally Posted by wolf

* The notion behind homeopathy is that you are given a substance that will causethe symptom you are having, and somehow magically cure it. More than magically, actually, because the mixture is so dilute that no molecules of the original substance remain in the homeopathic solution.

You're more than little off here. Homeopathy suggests that a body can normally take care of itself, but in cases where it cannot, giving it a substance with the same "vibrations" as those which are causing the problem, will spur the body into action.
Anyone who has ever used homeopathy on a baby or child (who doesn't know about placebos) knows that it works - if you use the right vibration, which is the tricky part.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by jinx

You're more than little off here. Homeopathy suggests that a body can normally take care of itself, but in cases where it cannot, giving it a substance with the same "vibrations" as those which are causing the problem, will spur the body into action.

Where "vibration" is defined as "having once been in contact with a molecule that was once in contact with a molecule, etc. etc., that was once in contact with a molecule of a substance that in sufficient dose might cause similar symptoms".

Giving homeopathic remedies to kids or pets works when they are suffering from something that would go away by itself anyway. In those cases, the placebo effect is on you, when you attribute any change in behavior to the bottled water you gave them.

Even if you believe in "vibrations", at the dilution levels that they use, every molecule of water on Earth has already picked up "vibrations" from every possible substance on Earth before the preparation process begins. Drinking a glass of tap water would cure all diseases.

[jinx]

Where "vibration" is defined as "having once been in contact with a molecule that was once in contact with a molecule, etc. etc., that was once in contact with a molecule of a substance that in sufficient dose might cause similar symptoms".

Maybe read up on this a little more.

Giving homeopathic remedies to kids or pets works when they are suffering from something that would go away by itself anyway. In those cases, the placebo effect is on you, when you attribute any change in behavior to the bottled water you gave them.

Have you ever had a teething baby? Seriously.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by jinx

Maybe read up on this a little more.

OK, done. That was untrue. Water does not "cluster". Shui Yin Lo is a quack who claimed to have made room temperature ice.

Have you ever had a teething baby? Seriously.

I haven't had one, but I've had younger siblings. It may seem like it, but they don't actually cry 24 hours a day. They will stop at some point.