Second Chances

[Urbane Guerrilla]

That's why I haven't voted for a Democratic candidate since sometime-I-can't-remember in the last century: no visible interest in the Republic's interest, which is a hell of a goddam note during a shooting war.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

That's why I haven't voted for a Democratic candidate since sometime-I-can't-remember in the last century: no visible interest in [s]the Republic's[/s] my interests, which is a hell of a goddam note during a shooting war.

Well I guess that is logical.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Well I guess that is logical.

I seek to understand and adopt the Republic's interest, so only in that sense is it "my" interest. It's in the Republic's interest to win her wars, especially with Gap-nation nondemocracies (an essential reason they are in the listing of Barnettian Gap nations), and particularly in the interest of spreading any possible shades of democracy throughout the globe. Instantaneous conversion from bad government to good government isn't at all likely, so opening wedges and the salami method must be employed, and planned for.

This is a really weird thing for a supporter of Caesar to say. Yes, the Democrats lied about pulling us out of this nightmare, but to imply that Caesar supports the Republic is just nuts.

Calling GWB a Caesar does violence to an accurate understanding of both, Griff. Kindly do not indulge in unbalanced partisan hysterics if you want me to take you seriously as a thinker. He thinks more as a libertarian than you're willing to give him credit for, so remove the blinkers. I mean, visibly do so, don't just claim you did and continue as blindly as before: to endeavor by all means to shrink the world's trouble spots -- the countries and regions in the Gap -- is not unlibertarian at its root, however busy this may be in intervention in affairs outside our borders. Call it anti-isolationism if you like. You know I regard isolationism as a nonstarter and you know why I say so. The worldwide economic and cultural connectivity of globalism make this course of action inevitable and its advance inescapable. A question for this America, this quintessential global economic Core nation, is whether we ride this advance to greater success and general worldwide wealth creation, or whether we screw up and cede this position to somebody of greater ambition or hunger, in the New Core -- mostly Russia, China, and India.

[Griff]

Your mistake is in believing that militarism supports our being an economic core nation. One example is the erosion of our lock on international students in our university system. Students who come to America become business partners with Americans when they return to their home country. Our position in the world has deteriorated to the point that international students are looking elsewhere, because we now approach the world paradoxically, our minds are isolated but our weapons are everywhere.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

That's why I haven't voted for a Democratic candidate since sometime-I-can't-remember in the last century: no visible interest in the Republic's interest, which is a hell of a goddam note during a shooting war.

This is a really weird thing for a supporter of Caesar to say. Yes, the Democrats lied about pulling us out of this nightmare, but to imply that Caesar supports the Republic is just nuts.