Ending God's Tax Exempt Status

jester · 08-20-2007, 02:39 PM

I thought you were referring to the "message" itself as a lie, not healing. However, I get what you are saying, on all accounts. I don't feel the same way. That's just my position.

Happy Monkey · 08-20-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jester

How do you know for a fact that it is a lie?

Well, that's just the thing, isn't it? Many religious people do claim that they know for a fact. If you are using the inherent uncertainty of religious issues to question rkzenrage, then a claim of certainty by a religious person should be given the same treatment.

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Originally Posted by jester

I thought you were referring to the "message" itself as a lie, not healing.

Of course, the healing is a more obvious lie, and could be tested, but I expect that the people would exhibit similar reactions to the dowsers I posted earlier, and be unwilling to accept that no healing actually occurred.

jester · 08-20-2007, 03:10 PM

HM, I understand what you're saying. It's basically someone's fact/opinion vs another's fact/opinion. This is something that could be debated "forever", it is probably the most difficult thing, to "sway" someone away from a belief that they have held for most of their entire life.

08-20-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jester

HM, I understand what you're saying. It's basically someone's fact/opinion vs another's fact/opinion. This is something that could be debated "forever", it is probably the most difficult thing, to "sway" someone away from a belief that they have held for most of their entire life.

Wrong, providing housing with ___% of our income can be shown, no opinion on the service needed.
A fact is a fact. Opinions are useless.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-20-2007, 08:32 PM

"Opinions are useless." Yes, especially yours.
Of the 40 odd tax exempt non-profits in my zip code, none of them provide me with a fucking thing... zip... zero. By your reasoning, I should object to their tax free status. But I won't, because I'm not a selfish prick that whines about what benefits other people get that I don't.

jester · 08-21-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Wrong, providing housing with ___% of our income can be shown, no opinion on the service needed.
A fact is a fact. Opinions are useless.

Thank you for telling me I'm wrong. Opinions might be useless, but like an asshole, everybody's got one.

08-20-2007, 08:32 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	"Opinions are useless." Yes, especially yours. Of the 40 odd tax exempt non-profits in my zip code, none of them provide me with a fucking thing... zip... zero. By your reasoning, I should object to their tax free status. But I won't, because I'm not a selfish prick that whines about what benefits other people get that I don't. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-20-2007, 02:39 PM	#1
jester why so serious Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,712	I thought you were referring to the "message" itself as a lie, not healing. However, I get what you are saying, on all accounts. I don't feel the same way. That's just my position.

08-20-2007, 03:10 PM	#3
jester why so serious Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,712	HM, I understand what you're saying. It's basically someone's fact/opinion vs another's fact/opinion. This is something that could be debated "forever", it is probably the most difficult thing, to "sway" someone away from a belief that they have held for most of their entire life.

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