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Old 07-24-2007, 10:07 PM   #1
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As best I can tell (I had to get numbers that were not provided and should have been provided), both examples under ideal conditions are readable up to 10 meters.
Hi.

I'm Clodfobble's husband. For years now, she has participated in lively conversations with many people on the Cellar. Some of these interested me greatly, but for years now, I have never once posted, nor even really read the threads. I want to mention this to provide background and perhaps a little weight to what I'm about to say:

You, sir, are a moron.

My wife's post was was stating that TX Tag was an RFID device, which you dismissed because you were not personally familiar with TX Tag, but instead based your assumptions (a dangerous thing for an engineer), on the older EZ Pass technology. You stated that the reporter must be a "technically naive reporter", when in fact you were the technically naive one. A simple google search for TX Tag gave the Wikipedia article which validated the manufacturer as Transcore's eGo product. A quick click there gave the frequencies for these devices. You want to complain about the ranges? Fine. Go ahead. But I might note that the TX Tag is a passive 900Mhz RFID system, currently in use. I'm willing to bet that the engineers that tested the system are happy that the tags are responsive within a range acceptable for operation on the tollways (which are certainly greater than 3 meters, but probably less than 10). But then again, no one was asking about that.

It's OK to be wrong. Sure, it hurts your street cred a little, and all the younger engineers start eyeing you like they're going to challenge you for dominance in the RF engineering pack, but it's much less painful then continually driving the wrong point home over and over again.

So ends my first (and probably last) Cellar post.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:03 AM   #2
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So ends my first (and probably last) Cellar post.
Welcome to the Cellar Mr. Clodfobble.
Thanks for the input. I could see why you would be reluctant to post here, or anywhere she knows about. She's a very smart chick and if you flub, she'd cut you to ribbons. That could be bad, when you just can't hit the close button to escape.
That said, your post didn't sound like one prone to flubs, so please resist the temptation to protect your genitals and stick around. Please.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:05 PM   #3
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You want to complain about the ranges? Fine. Go ahead. But I might note that the TX Tag is a passive 900Mhz RFID system, currently in use.
'We again have proof that Saddam had WMDs.'

If that product does exist as an RFID for monitoring cars through toll booths, then Mr Clodfobble could provide numbers or a citation. Currently we only have his emotionally laced insistence that it is true. And that is the credibility lesson from a lying president. One whose knowledge comes only from ‘I feel I know’ need not provide credible sources. Where are those facts and numbers? Why so much emotion when simple citations could have answered the question?

When numbers suggest it does not exist, does Mr Clodfobble provide numbers and citations - or get emotional?

I did his work. Some new RFID electronic tolls booths in the UHF range work reliable if the vehicle stays under 20 MPH. RFID was not the point. Mr Clodfobble made claims without providing one reason to believe him. That should never happen now that we all learned why a mental midget president could lie same way about WMDs .

Clodfobble finally provided a citation only after being pushed. Numbers in her citation said RFID still is not sufficient for tolls booths. She did not do the required work - cite those numbers. I had to find numbers from her citation. Clodfobble was called on making claims she could not even confirm with underlying facts or a grasp of the simple technology. Her proof was same that a president used to prove Saddam was importing yellow cake from Niger.

Get those simple facts was not difficult. RFID for electronic toll collection is a recent achievement that requires a vehicle to pass through slowly. That information was available at responsible sources such as RFID Times Magazine. Only required was something to make Clodfobble's post credible. So why so much silly emotion?

Amazing how many still want to believe the first thing they are told rather than demand confirmation - the numbers. Amazing how many get childish emotional when they don't provide necessary citations.

"Mission Accomplished taught everyone this: "I know only because I 'know' means I know nothing". Attached emotion only implies a credibility problem. Basic facts were so easily avaiable. Why instead so much childish emotion?
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:09 PM   #4
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I was wrong
C'mon tw, you can do it... be a man.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:16 PM   #5
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C'mon tw, you can do it... be a man.
Did you know I am a woman? Wait. Mr tw will reply with anger. It is what he does best.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:06 PM   #6
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Did you know I am a woman? Wait. Mr tw will reply with anger. It is what he does best.
Oh I get it now - the "tw"o of you share the email and the rest of us never know to whom we're talking. Very nice - I can see clearly now, the rain is gone. Wait a minute - we need proof - cite complete sources and images for confirmation,
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:37 PM   #7
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Cited were no numbers why tw is female. Cite was never given. Why so much emotion? 85% of all problems are traced to lack of citations by mental midget CEOs. Were cite given, reader would never question facts stated. Numbers deny efficacy of Listerine. Burns mouth but kills no germs in vivo. Lesson from lying president is that missing WMDs have higher efficacy than Listerine.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:27 PM   #8
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Yeah, but I'd hit it.
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