Farewell to a changed, subtle Iran

[piercehawkeye45]

I can tell you where the extremism came from.

That is BS. Iran has been hostile to the US since 1979.

Actually 1953. That wasn't even the worst account of Operation Ajax I have seen too. I can give you other sources if you want.

Not the same. The McCarthy era was based on perceived threats. These threats are real. It amazes me that people like yourself and thousands of others have been unable to see that real threats against the US exist. 9/11 wasn't enough was it? What will it take? A personal death in your family or a close friend killed before the masses wake up?

It doesn't matter if the treat is real or not, if a country feels threatened by an outside force, they will usually resort to extremism.

The extremism has been there long before we moved into the neighborhood. Don't be fooled by the left-wing rhetoric. I don't know where you get your information from but there is a lot of material out there that provides a more balanced view other than the "US bad, everyone else victim" stories so often spouted on our 1,0's of the internet by armchair quarterbacks with no experience in the world of the military and anti-terrorist organizational experts.

I have given one source on Operation Ajax and I have read many, all of which have said the same thing. The CIA even admits to it. If you can find something that goes against what I have posted, I would like to see it.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I can tell you where the extremism came from.


Actually 1953. That wasn't even the worst account of Operation Ajax I have seen too. I can give you other sources if you want.


It doesn't matter if the treat is real or not, if a country feels threatened by an outside force, they will usually resort to extremism.


I have given one source on Operation Ajax and I have read many, all of which have said the same thing. The CIA even admits to it. If you can find something that goes against what I have posted, I would like to see it.

Oh I agree, don't get me wrong. I am well aware of our history in the era of the 50's - 90's. I lived much of it, some as a young child or teen bystander, some as a participant. The bottom line is that there is no way in hell that you can hang all of the current level of Muslim extremism on some collection of single events conducted by Western governments. No way in hell. That would be a totally simplistic view of how the Muslim world views the West (IMHO). You completely discount the source of the extremism thought and that is from a bastardization of the Koran. The other historical events are fuel for the fire of Muslim extremism which some very shrewd leaders in the Muslim world have manipulated to serve their cause. This idea that we, the US or the West, are someway directly responsible for Muslim extremism is naive.