Ruling that race cannot be a factor upsets - duh

richlevy · 06-30-2007, 11:18 AM

It's not just race, it's also class. Especially in areas with a lot of students in private schools, public schools are defunded until they cannot achieve.

In parts of the south after desegregation, there was 'white flight' to private schools and the public schools were left to decline.

The only path to quality education is to force all levels of society to have a direct stake in it's success. Technically, they do, but many people do not understand this. If Paris Hilton or GWB had been forced to attend an inner-city school, their parents would have made sure that there was enough money for books.

Certainly, part of the problem is parents who have been through the system and have given up. The other side of the problem is the system composed of civil servants and run by politicians, many of who have also given up. At this point the system is so overwhelmed that many resources are just being diverted to keeping children safe.

Griff · 06-30-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

The only path to quality education is to force all levels of society to have a direct stake in it's success.

I've got to disagree with you Rich. I assume your son's education would have been inadequate without your personal committment. Society is a fuzzy enough concept as to be completely without meaning. I went to a pretty bad public school and will not be forced to put my children through that nightmare. I'm not big on defunding public schools, but I do get bent out of shape when borderline schools spend confiscated dollars on swimming pools and football stadiums. We spend enough money on schools in this country, but it's like health care, we misallocate resources.

richlevy · 06-30-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

We spend enough money on schools in this country, but it's like health care, we misallocate resources.

It's sad when music programs get defunded, but I find it appalling when students don't have textbooks. Did anyone see the recent I-Team on the Philadelphia School District? Two guys alone spent $33,000 in 3 years.

First of all,considering that these guys are more likely buying services and not selling them, they shouldn't have had to pick up the tab. And if it was all school district employees, then they shouldn't have been eating in the Four Seasons.

jester · 07-09-2007, 04:09 PM

School transfer rule may change

Supreme Court ruling to ban race as placement factor could affect Knox

By Ansley Haman (Contact)
Friday, June 29, 2007

Excerpts:
That decision could affect other school systems across the nation, including Knox County, where students currently are prohibited from transferring among public schools if doing so would upset a school’s racial balance.

Knox County’s current transfer policy defines black students as “minority” and all other students as “nonminority.”

06-30-2007, 11:18 AM	#1
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	It's not just race, it's also class. Especially in areas with a lot of students in private schools, public schools are defunded until they cannot achieve. In parts of the south after desegregation, there was 'white flight' to private schools and the public schools were left to decline. The only path to quality education is to force all levels of society to have a direct stake in it's success. Technically, they do, but many people do not understand this. If Paris Hilton or GWB had been forced to attend an inner-city school, their parents would have made sure that there was enough money for books. Certainly, part of the problem is parents who have been through the system and have given up. The other side of the problem is the system composed of civil servants and run by politicians, many of who have also given up. At this point the system is so overwhelmed that many resources are just being diverted to keeping children safe. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

07-09-2007, 04:09 PM	#4
jester why so serious Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,712	School transfer rule may change Supreme Court ruling to ban race as placement factor could affect Knox By Ansley Haman (Contact) Friday, June 29, 2007 Excerpts: That decision could affect other school systems across the nation, including Knox County, where students currently are prohibited from transferring among public schools if doing so would upset a school’s racial balance. Knox County’s current transfer policy defines black students as “minority” and all other students as “nonminority.”

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