Sheriff calls for guns on campus

[wolf]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Guns are not like heroine*, I can not just avoid guns like I can heroine. If someone takes heroine, I will never be killed from it. That is the point of the whole debate, what may be worse for the individual may be best for the community.

If you do not attempt to assault, rape, or murder me, you won't be harmed by my gun.

Just as in your heroin example, you make the choice not to engage in the risk-taking behavior. Actually, it goes beyond that. You are ultimately harmed by the guy doing heroin. It's your money that's going to send him to rehab, and your stuff that he's stealing (even if indirectly by an increase in your taxes to pay for the police to deal with the crime related to his drug use).




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* Note: There is no "e" in heroin. Putting one there makes me nuts.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by wolf

* Note: There is no "e" in heroin. Putting one there makes me nuts.

Methinks heroine is more dangerous than heroin.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by wolf

If you do not attempt to assault, rape, or murder me, you won't be harmed by my gun.

Yes, but you do not speak for everyone that owns a gun. Other people use to enforce their lust for power.


xoxoxobruce - I think you are misunderstanding my analogy. Of course no one has to tell you what you can and can not do, but you do not need rights to do whatever you want. Rights are just superfluous, why I say it is more complicated, and the only thing I can see them being there is for justification.


rkzenrage - Would you still want guns on campus if 20 people were dying a year from them but only 1 person a year was being saved from them? This is assuming we had definite proof.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

xoxoxobruce - I think you are misunderstanding my analogy. Of course no one has to tell you what you can and can not do, but you do not need rights to do whatever you want. Rights are just superfluous, why I say it is more complicated, and the only thing I can see them being there is for justification.

Of course they are justification, they are the reason I can do what I wish.
That said, that doesn't release me from the responsibility of considering, and not infringing on, other peoples rights.
If I didn't have the right to do what I wish, there would be no reason for laws to tell me I can't, they would just not tell me I could.