Proclaiming Liberalism, and What It Now Means

[piercehawkeye45]

There is a difference between Iraq and two groups that actually want to work together for peace (Palestine/Israel wasn’t a great example but they are showing steps of wanting peace even if they aren’t close to being there yet). Iraq is not working for peace so there is nothing we can do there. If two places want peace, but just need help keeping it, America, along with other countries, should step in for the greater good. If things get out of control then leave.

Durfur is different because it is a slaughter. There is nothing the natives can do to stop the genocide in Sudan so higher authorities have to step in. You guys talk tough about everyone’s right to life but do nothing to protect anyone else's when they are asking for help.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

There is a difference between Iraq and two groups that actually want to work together for peace (Palestine/Israel wasn’t a great example but they are showing steps of wanting peace even if they aren’t close to being there yet). Iraq is not working for peace so there is nothing we can do there. If two places want peace, but just need help keeping it, America, along with other countries, should step in for the greater good. If things get out of control then leave.

Durfur is different because it is a slaughter. There is nothing the natives can do to stop the genocide in Sudan so higher authorities have to step in. You guys talk tough about everyone’s right to life but do nothing to protect anyone else's when they are asking for help.

Those are your opinions. I can tell you that it is not the job of American's to step into any shit hole. Darfur is a shit hole. That is the problem of Africa, they need to deal with it. The government of Sudan should deal with those issues. What you are saying is double-speak. On the one hand to talk about the US as a "higher authority" and at the same time say we should impose our will on other people because you think the cause is just. Bush thought that sending us to Iraq was just and look where that got us.

Who said anything about "us guys talking tough about everyone's right to life"? Certainly you are not making assumptions about my belief's?[/quote]

If two places want peace, but just need help keeping it, America, along with other countries, should step in for the greater good. If things get out of control then leave.

This is exactly what we should not do... Our history is littered with countries where we went in with good intentions and pulled out when things got tough only leaving the country in shambles. Maybe that is why people in the know are resistant to pull out of Iraq, I don't know. You don't step in with force and impose your will on others and pull out cause things are suddenly a bigger shite sandwhich for you to swallow...