Is America Dying?

[piercehawkeye45]

90% of that crime is in impoverished areas where, sadly, no one seems to care about anyways.

If you really look you will find every country is just like what you said.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

90% of that crime is in impoverished areas where, sadly, no one seems to care about anyways.

If you really look you will find every country is just like what you said.

Every first world nation has its crime but not on the level seen in the united states. I have looked, we have had this discussion before. Try comparing crime rates in any US city to hong kong, tokyo, singapore and see what I mean.
Also why is america so divided ideologically? Why does america allow itself to be invaded? Why in america can a child molester get off because the judge doesn't like the prison system?

Me starting this thread was a legitimate question. Is america dying?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

Every first world nation has its crime but not on the level seen in the united states. I have looked, we have had this discussion before. Try comparing crime rates in any US city to hong kong, tokyo, singapore and see what I mean.
Also why is america so divided ideologically? Why does america allow itself to be invaded? Why in america can a child molester get off because the judge doesn't like the prison system?

Me starting this thread was a legitimate question. Is america dying?

It has its crime but it is not falling apart because of it. You also can't learn shit from statistics and I have explained the situation for you. The average person in the United States is no more violent than anywhere else in the first world. It is just a small population that is violent.

Why does america allow itself to be invaded?

This is one of the most ignorant things I've heard. It is extremely hard and expensive to stop so stop judging others on what you have no understanding of.

Also why is america so divided ideologically?

Because we have opinions.

Why in america can a child molester get off because the judge doesn't like the prison system?

This is a one in a million thing that will inevidately happen in a coutnry as big and free as ours. If it was happening all the time then, yes it would be a problem, but it isn't.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

It has its crime but it is not falling apart because of it. You also can't learn shit from statistics and I have explained the situation for you. The average person in the United States is no more violent than anywhere else in the first world. It is just a small population that is violent.

The average american may not be more violent than anybody else but level of violence is higher than other first world nations. There is something wrong there. I know you americans are patriotic but stop denying reality.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

This is one of the most ignorant things I've heard. It is extremely hard and expensive to stop so stop judging others on what you have no understanding of.

There is nothing ignorant about that at all. You let millions of uneducated and unskilled workers flood your border despite the law. That is an invasion. You do nothing serious to stop it but argue about it instead. You even allow the invaders to protest in your streets waving their flag!
Your government is ineffective in this area. Perhaps due to corruption.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Because we have opinions.

Your opinions have deadlocked you into uselessness.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

This is a one in a million thing that will inevidately happen in a coutnry as big and free as ours. If it was happening all the time then, yes it would be a problem, but it isn't.

The fact nothing was done about it and it was allowed to happen again says something about the american justice system.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

The average american may not be more violent than anybody else but level of violence is higher than other first world nations. There is something wrong there. I know you americans are patriotic but stop denying reality.

I have told you why there is more violence in America than in the first-world countries. Of course there is something wrong but you can't blame a whole country for the mistake of a few people.

There is nothing ignorant about that at all. You let millions of uneducated and unskilled workers flood your border despite the law. That is an invasion.

If you can come up with a solution I would love to hear it.

You do nothing serious to stop it but argue about it instead. You even allow the invaders to protest in your streets waving their flag!

How is that bad?

Your government is ineffective in this area. Perhaps due to corruption.

Every government is corrupt.

Your opinions have deadlocked you into uselessness.

No, it is other reasons why we are not getting to a solution.

The fact nothing was done about it and it was allowed to happen again says something about the american justice system.

Once again you are taking an isolated incident and blaming it on the entire country.

It isn't about superiority. I make criticism about america because I lived there. I have seen it for myself. Americans assume any criticism is bashing and nothing more.

Whether you know it or not your tone comes off like you are looking down upon the United States. That is superiority. Just because you lived here for two years or however long doesn't make you an expert on America.

I do not assume all criticism is bashing. I am one of the most heavy United States criticizers here but it is to change the way we live not look down upon it. The way you worded it makes it sound like bashing.

[Beestie]

duck is right. America is dying. China rules. Except when tiny Japan humiliated them.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Well yeah, but she lives in HK which is a world apart from China. She's not a real Chinese.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I have told you why there is more violence in America than in the first-world countries. Of course there is something wrong but you can't blame a whole country for the mistake of a few people.

There is always an excuse.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

If you can come up with a solution I would love to hear it.

Close your border to the invaders.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

How is that bad?

You accuse me of "america bashing" but allow invaders to bash you in the streets in protests?? Are you joking me??

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Every government is corrupt.

Some more than others. Yours is not doing anything about it.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

No, it is other reasons why we are not getting to a solution.

What other reasons?

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Once again you are taking an isolated incident and blaming it on the entire country.

Not true. It seems a growing trend in america that criminals be rehabilitated instead of removed like they should. Why else do you have so many repeat offenders?

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Whether you know it or not your tone comes off like you are looking down upon the United States. That is superiority. Just because you lived here for two years or however long doesn't make you an expert on America.

I do not assume all criticism is bashing. I am one of the most heavy United States criticizers here but it is to change the way we live not look down upon it. The way you worded it makes it sound like bashing.

I'm sorry for my tone but can you suggest how I can express criticisms of the united states without offending hypersensitive americans?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

There is always an excuse.

Then how should we fix it?

Close your border to the invaders.

How are we going to pay for it? What if they come in through the sea or through Canada?

You accuse me of "america bashing" but allow invaders to bash you in the streets in protests?? Are you joking me??

First, stop referring to Mexicans as invaders, the reasons they come to America is much deeper than "it is illegal". Second, they are protesting to try to change America. You are not trying to change America, just point out its problems. There is a big difference.

Some more than others. Yours is not doing anything about it.

The majority wants to do something about it but we don't have the power to do that. Once again, you are saying something bad about us without and anything that we can do to change. Yeah, we have our problems but so does your country. If I ever criticize your country on its policies, it will be constructive.

What other reasons?

The people don't have the power and the system is worked so politicians have to lie to become elected. That is not limited to America by the way.

Not true. It seems a growing trend in america that criminals be rehabilitated instead of removed like they should. Why else do you have so many repeat offenders?

Removed like they should? So you are implying that your method is the right method and ours is wrong? Rehabilitation is the way to go in my opinion, but that is wrong apparently. That all doesn't matter anyways because we are not going the direction you are talking about. How are you getting this information about our trends?

I'm sorry for my tone but can you suggest how I can express criticisms of the united states without offending hypersensitive americans?

By suggesting how we can realistically change. If you can not come up with a suggestion on how we can change then don't say anything because it will be pointless. You also have to remember that what works in your country may not work in our country because of other variables. Teach us how to live a better life and save ourselves from destruction, c'mon.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

You accuse me of "america bashing" but allow invaders to bash you in the streets in protests?? Are you joking me??

Good point, I say we send in the tanks and Machine gun them down in the square.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

There is nothing ignorant about that at all. You let millions of uneducated and unskilled workers flood your border despite the law. That is an invasion. You do nothing serious to stop it but argue about it instead. You even allow the invaders to protest in your streets waving their flag!.

Bold text mine.

It's called FREEDOM, duck. Say it with me: Freeeeeedommmmm.
Immigration (or invasion as you call it) or not, we tend to let people wave whatever freaking flag they want. Would you rather our government suppress that? I wouldn't; that isn't FREEDOM.

[Griff]

Amen.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Bold text mine.

It's called FREEDOM, duck. Say it with me: Freeeeeedommmmm.
Immigration (or invasion as you call it) or not, we tend to let people wave whatever freaking flag they want. Would you rather our government suppress that? I wouldn't; that isn't FREEDOM.

Allowing criminal illegal immigrants to wave their flag isn't freedom, it's stupid. STUUUUPIIID

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

Allowing criminal illegal immigrants to wave their flag isn't freedom, it's stupid. STUUUUPIIID

Oh no she di'int.

Back in the day, if someone thought a book was "wrong" it was banned, it was burned. We believe in freedom. We don't suppress a person's right to express ideas. You think it's stupid? No, you're stupid (in whiny voice I'm imagining you have). We have to still fight for this, against people like you who think they know what's best for everyone else. Clue: you don't know shit.

Listen, when you've made it halfway around the block, we'll talk about America. I've circled it a few times, and I don't remember seeing you.