Do You Own a Gun?

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Any type of gun, or any type of weapon? Nukes? Bioweapons?

What part of "any" do you have a hard time comprehending? I have the right to own any weapon as long as I'm not physically harming or endangering others with it. Merely owning a weapon doesn't endanger anyone. If I own nukes, I should be able to prove that they are not leaking radiation onto my neighbors. I should be able to prove that I have any bioweapons stored in such a way that there is no way for the germs to escape and endanger my neighbors.

I should be able to own a tank, a fighter jet, or even a nuclear sub complete with nuclear warheads if I can afford it and don't use them to threaten or endanger others.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Radar

What part of "any" do you have a hard time comprehending? I have the right to own any weapon as long as I'm not physically harming or endangering others with it.

I understand what "any" means, but I don't always get the same answer when I ask others what they mean by "any".

Merely owning a weapon doesn't endanger anyone. If I own nukes, I should be able to prove that they are not leaking radiation onto my neighbors. I should be able to prove that I have any bioweapons stored in such a way that there is no way for the germs to escape and endanger my neighbors.

Prove to whom? Do they have the right to make your ownership rights contingent on regular inspections and code compliance? How would they know to make those inspections - should you have to register the weapons with the inspectors in order to own them?

[slang]

Keep going everyone, keep going.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I understand what "any" means, but I don't always get the same answer when I ask others what they mean by "any".
Prove to whom? Do they have the right to make your ownership rights contingent on regular inspections and code compliance? How would they know to make those inspections - should you have to register the weapons with the inspectors in order to own them?

You'd have to prove it to your neighbors if they claimed you were endangering them. Actually it goes the other way. They would have to prove you were endangering them in order to take any actions against you. If they made such claims and had enough evidence to get a trial, you'd then have to prove your storage was safe.....or nuke the court.

[jester]

i'm kind of an outsider on this - but i'm curious - i don't think i read or maybe didn't understand - how would spexxvet protect his family if presented with the situation given of a threatening intruder? i know you all gave examples of "poison & guns" purchasing them without the intent to do harm unless provoked - the same could be said about "swords". we have couple that we purchased as christmas gifts - only because my son thought they were "cool". as stated before we don't have any guns so - what if I used that? not that i would even remember having it. would i just "point & stick" - no pun intended. just wondering.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by jester

snip~ the same could be said about "swords". we have couple that we purchased as christmas gifts - only because my son thought they were "cool". as stated before we don't have any guns so - what if I used that?

Spex says that's proof positive you bought that sword with intent of stabbing someone.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Spex says that's proof positive you bought that sword with intent of stabbing someone.

First, you hypocritically presume to know my intentions, now you presume to speak for me. Just shut the fuck up, you dumb cocksucker.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex.
Just call me the dickhead's disciple.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Radar

You'd have to prove it to your neighbors if they claimed you were endangering them. Actually it goes the other way. They would have to prove you were endangering them in order to take any actions against you. If they made such claims and had enough evidence to get a trial, you'd then have to prove your storage was safe.....or nuke the court.

So you don't have to prove you're handling it properly.

How are they supposed to know whether you're endangering them until it's too late?

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

So you don't have to prove you're handling it properly.

How are they supposed to know whether you're endangering them until it's too late?

The burden of proof rests squarely on the shoulders of those who are making accusations of impropriety or especially those making accusations of endangerment.

I'd imagine if they started losing hair for no apparent reason and found that there was radiation coming from a house, they'd probably be able to figure it out.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Radar

The burden of proof rests squarely on the shoulders of those who are making accusations of impropriety or especially those making accusations of endangerment.

I'd imagine if they started losing hair for no apparent reason and found that there was radiation coming from a house, they'd probably be able to figure it out.

Like I said. Too late.