Discrimination?

Ibby · 05-06-2007, 10:05 AM

Is it discrimination and sexism to say that, in the dance unit for PE, you will get a worse grade for not dancing with the opposite sex, or simply be forced to pair with people of the opposite sex?

Cloud · 05-06-2007, 10:48 AM

no

wolf · 05-06-2007, 02:08 PM

Nope.

Do you think it's discriminatory when they make you spell words the same way they appear in the dictionary?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-06-2007, 02:57 PM

No. It's dancing not sex.

Although dancing leads to sex.

bluecuracao · 05-06-2007, 09:18 PM

It depends on what their reasoning is for it. At the least, it sounds like a silly rule to me.

Aliantha · 05-06-2007, 09:20 PM

Well as long as you both don't want to 'lead'...

Ibby · 05-06-2007, 09:21 PM

Why should a person have to dance with the opposite sex if they don't like the opposite sex?

And dont even get me started on 'The GUY has to lead, while the girl has to follow...' and all that shit.

Dancing doesnt have to be sexist; why does the school get to enforce a sexist code for dancing?
Schools shouldnt be able to discriminate by gender for any reason.

bluecuracao · 05-06-2007, 09:30 PM

Did you ask the teacher why there's such a requirement?

monster · 05-06-2007, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

Why should a person have to dance with the opposite sex if they don't like the opposite sex?

And dont even get me started on 'The GUY has to lead, while the girl has to follow...' and all that shit.

Dancing doesnt have to be sexist; why does the school get to enforce a sexist code for dancing?
Schools shouldnt be able to discriminate by gender for any reason.

Would you object if the partner the school picked for you was ugly?

The dance taught in schools should not be sexual. In a way you are bringing sex into it if you refuse and you are discriminating if you refuse.

But let's approach this practically. Say the school allowed people to dance with the partner of their choice. Then the "couples" would dance together, the single girls would dance together and the single boys would refuse. mostly. That's just the way it is. This rule is probably the most practical way for the school to get the stuff done. And for that reason, I wouldn't say it's discriminatory.

I might question why the school feels it's necessary to make paired dancing compulsory (as it sounds it is).

Would you claim it's discrimination if you are not allowed in the ladies locker room? Even if you have no interest in the girls? Would you think that their request that you not be allowed in unreasonable? Or discrimination? If so, I think you'd be in the minority.

Cloud · 05-06-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

Why should a person have to dance with the opposite sex if they don't like the opposite sex?

Because half the world is the other half, and you better learn to live in it. Dancing is a social skill (as well as a joy), and learning to live with your fellow people is what growing up and being a human is all about.

Don't be ridiculous. After all, they have to dance with you. It's only social intercourse.

Aliantha · 05-06-2007, 09:23 PM

I remember when I was in school the girls often had to dance together because there was always an abundance of us.

I don't see what the challenge is really.

Spexxvet · 05-06-2007, 10:18 PM

If you are being graded on your ability to dance, the gender of who you dance with should not effect that grade. If it does, something is not right. If you were being graded on your ability to play basketball, would it matter which gender you played against?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-06-2007, 11:00 PM

Could, would, should. It's a damn high school, in China, you do what you're told. If you think high school sucks, wait till you get a whiff of the real world.

Ibby · 05-06-2007, 11:11 PM

Jeez, bruce, cool it. I dont really mind dancing with the girls - notice my comment on the 'whats making you happy?'thread - but it bothers me that it's mandatory that you HAVE to dance with the opposite sex.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-06-2007, 11:24 PM

That's exactly what I was talking about, it's high school. They don't give a rats ass if you think it's fair. High school is not a democracy, so it doesn't matter if you like it or not. You do what you're told or pay the penalty. Simple as that.

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Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Discrimination? Is it discrimination and sexism to say that, in the dance unit for PE, you will get a worse grade for not dancing with the opposite sex, or simply be forced to pair with people of the opposite sex? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Nope. Do you think it's discriminatory when they make you spell words the same way they appear in the dictionary? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-06-2007, 02:57 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No. It's dancing not sex. Although dancing leads to sex. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-06-2007, 09:20 PM	#6
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well as long as you both don't want to 'lead'... __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2007, 09:18 PM	#5
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	It depends on what their reasoning is for it. At the least, it sounds like a silly rule to me.

05-06-2007, 09:21 PM	#7
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Why should a person have to dance with the opposite sex if they don't like the opposite sex? And dont even get me started on 'The GUY has to lead, while the girl has to follow...' and all that shit. Dancing doesnt have to be sexist; why does the school get to enforce a sexist code for dancing? Schools shouldnt be able to discriminate by gender for any reason. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

05-06-2007, 09:30 PM	#8
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Did you ask the teacher why there's such a requirement?

05-06-2007, 09:23 PM	#11
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I remember when I was in school the girls often had to dance together because there was always an abundance of us. I don't see what the challenge is really. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2007, 10:18 PM	#12
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	If you are being graded on your ability to dance, the gender of who you dance with should not effect that grade. If it does, something is not right. If you were being graded on your ability to play basketball, would it matter which gender you played against? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

05-06-2007, 11:00 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Could, would, should. It's a damn high school, in China, you do what you're told. If you think high school sucks, wait till you get a whiff of the real world. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-06-2007, 11:11 PM	#14
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Jeez, bruce, cool it. I dont really mind dancing with the girls - notice my comment on the 'whats making you happy?'thread - but it bothers me that it's mandatory that you HAVE to dance with the opposite sex. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

05-06-2007, 11:24 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's exactly what I was talking about, it's high school. They don't give a rats ass if you think it's fair. High school is not a democracy, so it doesn't matter if you like it or not. You do what you're told or pay the penalty. Simple as that. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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