Do You Own a Gun?

[jinx]

I don't know cowhead, the armed citiz.. I mean insurgents in a few Iraqi cities seem to be holding their own. I don't see us going down with any less of a fight here.

I, and those like me, don't just know how to make guns and ammo. We would be able to hold our own just fine.

[bluecuracao]

Hold your own, against what??

[piercehawkeye45]

You aren't going to hold your own with handguns, which if anything gets banned, they will.

Everything you need to fight an army using guerilla tactics are basically illegal already. Rifles and shotguns will never be banned in this country, at least in the next 30-60 years, and those are the only legal guns that would be useful against an opposing/US army, besides assult rifiles and other powerful guns (I don't know the legal system with them).

If you are going to fight an army, expolsives are the way to go anyways.

Once the government tries to revoke the right to own a handgun, or any other gun, there will be a revolution. Habeas corpus & the Anti-Patriot Acts was far more than a hint.
Many will NOT give up their handguns and will then know that the government has the full intention of making the US a complete police state.
At that point it will be the duty of the citizens of this nations to take their country back and instate a Constitutional government.
Any officers that choose to capitulate with such an order are enemies to the people of the US and should be treated as such. No different than any other occupying force.
Read Jackson.

(explosives and surgical guerrilla sniping would be the most effective)

[Urbane Guerrilla]

The problem with the kind of strict gun control you find on college campuses is that it creates a hunting preserve for any crazy willing to defy the gun control.

Creating hunting preserves for crazies is just perverse -- and any advocation of it merits the most brutal and comprehensive of personal attacks and pointed questions as to the advocate's sanity, because what he's doing is asking that things be made easier for the bad guy. Anyone caught doing that should just do the mature thing and take his correction with good grace; he has, after all, stepped beyond the pale.

It has come to my attention that Utah, the one state in the union that does not prohibit keeping one's own guns on-campus, is also a state that's not had school shootings or near-shooting scrapes, not on college campuses anyway.

One article about it.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Tw's post is based on not understanding one simple problem: the degree of your enthusiasm for gun control, an essential precondition for acts of genocide, becomes a good indicator of your corresponding enthusiasm for genocide in general. That this genocide may be directed against people like oneself does not occur to the gun control lovers, which calls into question what they know about how genocides start.

No solid, nor even empirical, rebuttal has ever been made to the findings of the JPFO that there is a preconditional triad to make a genocide either likely or even possible: hatred, however based; governmental power, so states and governments are no remedy nor prophylaxis for genocides; and some means of disarming the out-group being targeted -- the most efficient means ever devised is to forbid the keeping of arms except by those 'approved.'

A gun ban ("gun controls" are always about banning possession of and denying access to guns) can lie in wait for decades before facilitating the dirty work. The gun ban that set up the killing fields in Cambodia had its earliest beginnings on January 27, 1920, and was added to in a significant manner with an ordinance dated March 28, 1938. Four decades from the temperate language of a statute to the pyramids of skulls.

The text of these laws is in French, which I read. The translation provided on the facing pages opposite the original texts presented in Lethal Laws is honest.

[piercehawkeye45]

Unbanning guns on campus will just make it worse. I do not trust many of the people on my campus, especially when drunk, and it will just create problems.

Banning guns on campus does not mean that someone will shoot up the campus, that is just stupid.

FFA funding party today on the ranch. Many guns raffled off. I almost won an awesome stainless rifle. Couple of young men won some great shotguns.
I lost count of the total.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Ah, show biz.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Christopher Scum

Arm the citizen, the criminal stays away.

Somehow, I'm now concerned with criminals that own guns. People that have been been under house arrest, been in damn jail cells hundreds of times, and have criminal records are usually prohibited from purchasing or owning firearms under federal law. Hopefully, someone will do something to rid us of these scum that plague our neighborhoods.

Originally Posted by Christopher Scum

It's also been proven that in neighbors hoods where assumed legal Gun Owners live, Crime is down. Doesn't that prove for something. Arm the citizen, the criminal stays away. These creeps aren't looking for a fight they wann find some 89 year old with a Cane.

During the hurricanes there was looting in some neighborhoods. (in some not just looting, looters get horny) Often while the residents watched as their homes were looted, and wifes were defiled (God must have been out for a snack).
Other streets remained untouched. Ours was such a street.
Anyone want to guess what the difference was from one street/block to another?
I bet you can guess... some of you are pretty smart.

[busterb]

Aw Shucks post number 300, if I hurry. Did anyone read the start of this shit. Do you own a gun. Not how you would like gun laws to be. Just yes or no.

[Kingswood]

Most gun owners are responsible people. They keep their weapons locked away when not in use, take care to make sure they are not loaded when put away, that sort of thing. I do not have issues with such people. They may have a gun to shoot vermin, or to put down a sick animal on the farm, or they may use them to hunt game, or they may like shooting at targets on a shooting range on weekends, or they may just feel safer with a gun nearby. Whatever their reasons, I respect them if they are responsible people.

The problem is, not all gun owners are as careful as they should be.

The careless ones are the ones that make like harder for legitimate gun owners. They are the ones that leave loaded guns lying around, or don't lock their guns away when not in use, and otherwise do not treat their firearms with the respect that they deserve.

All too often such carelessness leads to trouble. Children may find the guns and start playing with them. It's not uncommon for such carelessness to lead to tragedy.

When she was very little, someone I know had the experience of having a loaded gun pointed at her by her brother, who found a rifle in the house that had not been secured properly. She remembers this very clearly, as does her brother. After turning the gun on her, the brother turned the gun on another brother. And then pulled the trigger.

Blam.

Their brother died that day.

I don't know how common such events are in the USA. But if the figure I heard of 30,000 deaths by firearms per year in the USA is accurate, I would not be surprised if some of these deaths occured in similar circumstances.

I don't know what the laws are in the USA in relation to deaths caused by unsecured firearms. I feel that people who do not secure their firearms properly should be responsible for them. If one leaves a firearm lying around unsecured and it causes the death of a child, is it possible for that act of negligence to lead to jail time in the USA?

[xoxoxoBruce]

It often does.