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Old 04-27-2007, 07:15 PM   #1
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snip~ let others be massacred (ie in schools) and do nothing, ~snip~ This deja vue attitude of murder in VA,
You mentioned this several times, IIRC you said America's reaction was a yawn.

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
What are you doing besides accusing everyone else of doing nothing?
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:31 PM   #2
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You mentioned this several times, IIRC you said America's reaction was a yawn.

What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Why, Bruce, do you want step two without first doing step one? Well MBAs play that game routinely.

Offering solutions is rather useless here considering the many who assume if everyone had a gun, then crime would disappear – in direct contradiction to fact and history. Considering the many who assume the most violent western nation is not at all violent. Kill off kids in school, do some silly mourning ritual, deny a problem exists, and then do nothing. What is the count? Same four act play repeated 44 times now in America? A situation worthy of ridicule because the problem starts with denial. Denial of reality. Denial that bereavement is only an act.

Identifying a solution is far from relevant since and apparently xoxoxoBruce feels schoolyard massacres are situation normal (also called SNAFU).
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:52 PM   #3
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Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Why, Bruce, do you want step two without first doing step one? Well MBAs play that game routinely.
I didn't say I wanted to do anything of the sort and you know it. I asked what you expected the general population to do about it.
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Offering solutions is rather useless here considering the many who assume if everyone had a gun, then crime would disappear – in direct contradiction to fact and history.
You lying motherfucker, I'll give you $1,000 to back that statement up. Nobody ever said that on this board.
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Considering the many who assume the most violent western nation is not at all violent. Kill off kids in school, do some silly mourning ritual, deny a problem exists, and then do nothing. What is the count? Same four act play repeated 44 times now in America? A situation worthy of ridicule because the problem starts with denial. Denial of reality. Denial that bereavement is only an act.
Why don't you just come out and admit you don't have an answer to my question, instead of blaming everyone else for preventing you from solving all the problems of the world?
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Identifying a solution is far from relevant since and apparently xoxoxoBruce feels schoolyard massacres are situation normal (also called SNAFU).
I'll give you another $1,000 to back that accusation up too, liar.
So, the bottom line is you don't have an answer to;
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What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
What are you doing besides accusing everyone else of doing nothing?
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Old 04-28-2007, 06:03 PM   #4
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You lying motherfucker,
Bruce - take a pill. You have posted ten times consecutively - most posts containing nothing useful. Your are also posting only to argue; providing no new information; providing no new perspective.

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Try limiting your post to one reality at a time. Britian had no problem. Explain why that reality is not so.

Only children restort to profanity. Your profane accusations are typical of adult children and are not relevant in a logical reply. Please tell us how the British did not do step one - then did not do step two. Somehow you completely ignored that most relevant point.

Do you only want to argue. Do you advocate more schoolyard massacres? Or did you run out of coffee?
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Old 04-28-2007, 06:37 PM   #5
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tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one
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What do you expect an individual to do in reaction to this shooting?
So... can you answer it?
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:39 PM   #6
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tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one


So... can you answer it?
Give him some time to check the tin foil hat of his cat. The Cat in the Hat will tell him all. And than, and only than will he be able to answer you.... stay tuned.


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Old 04-29-2007, 05:30 PM   #7
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tw, I would love to see some real answers to xoB's questions... actually, just this one ...
One solution was provided AND provided quite clearly. Why is this difficult? Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Where is that answer so difficult? This answer provided three times now.

What have we done in the US? We don't even acknowledge a problem exists. Show me a consensus that even defines a problem? All we have is deadlock as the many 'special interests' subvert and distort a problem. Total response. Even make assault weapons legal. Make sure hollow point bullets are available. That clearly solves problems because the Chinese may invade any day now.

So jinx, if what I have posted is not an answer, then you can tell me step one: the problem is clearly defined? You tell me. What is this obvious problem? Where does consensus says America is even the most violent western industrial nation?

If I did not answer the question, then you can tell me what the problem is? If I have not answered his question, then clearly step one exists. What is it? It does not exist. America has no interest - will not even discuss in government - step one.

In another thread, Urbane Guerrilla reposts a standard myth by posting half facts about Switzerland. How many times is that half fact exposed for what it is? Even in The Cellar, active denial of 'step one' is widespread.

This nation's real response to 32 dead in Virginia? We lowered American flags. That's it. Well we did that for the dead in Nam. But today, we don't even do that for the dead in "Mission Accomplished". Death has now become that routine. Step one is not possible because we don't even acknowledge a problem exists. You might. But we (including you) deny a problem exists. Some have now said violence is what makes Americans American.

Duck Duck demonstrated a serious problem. America is the most violent western industrial nation. None come close. Instead of acknowledging the problem, she is attacked quite aggressively for posting a fact. You tell me. Does that mean we have acknowledged a problem? Of course not.

Step one: acknowledge a problem. America does not even do that. Shooting of Amish kids in PA - yawn. So many angry demonstrations because these things only happen in America? Instead our actions are inaction – deny a problem even exists – to even attack Duck Duck as if naïve – including responses that said challenge "go back from where you came". Another classic response called denial. This same answer that xoxoxoBruce now has three times over. Situation normal (SNAFU).

Why is an answer posted days ago so difficult to comprehend? Maybe because denial of a problem is that deep and that widespread? Answer comes complete with examples of success. How many schoolyard massacres occurred in Britain after they did step one and step two? Zero.
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:07 PM   #8
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Bruce - take a pill. You have posted ten times consecutively - most posts containing nothing useful. Your are also posting only to argue; providing no new information; providing no new perspective.

Britain had no problem eliminating school yard massacres quickly by (step one) acknowledging the problem, and then (step two) solving the problem. Try limiting your post to one reality at a time. Britian had no problem. Explain why that reality is not so.

Only children restort to profanity. Your profane accusations are typical of adult children and are not relevant in a logical reply. Please tell us how the British did not do step one - then did not do step two. Somehow you completely ignored that most relevant point.

Do you only want to argue. Do you advocate more schoolyard massacres? Or did you run out of coffee?
Answer the fucking question, liar.
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