Do You Own a Gun?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by wolf

So that and taunting him about the election results* was reasoned argument? I must have missed something, somewhere.

* I applaud Radar's courage in running with the deck stacked against him to that extent.

That was after I turned the other cheek twice - that's all he gets. I know: you conservatives need teamwork to even come close to winning an argument against one liberal. And still, you lose.

[Spexxvet]

Radar, you can think that you are born with all the rights you want - if your neighbor doesn't buy into the same societal convention, he will kill you and take your stuff and your women. So good luck with that.

[busterb]

Nuf said.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Radar, you can think that you are born with all the rights you want - if your neighbor doesn't buy into the same societal convention, he will kill you and take your stuff and your women. So good luck with that.

If he tries he will meet the same fate he planned for me but in my case, I'll be using defensive force and exercising my rights, while he'll be using offensive force while trying to violate them. My position is clear, concise, and has no flaws or ambiguity. This is because, unlike yours, it's based entirely on reality and truth.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Radar

If he tries he will meet the same fate he planned for me but in my case, I'll be using defensive force and exercising my rights, while he'll be using offensive force while trying to violate them. My position is clear, concise, and has no flaws or ambiguity. This is because, unlike yours, it's based entirely on reality and truth.

Don't you understand that if your neighbor would do this, he doesn't share the rights that supposedly were floating around waiting for you to be born? Rights are a societal convention. That's reality and truth, not mysticism and mumbo-jumbo, like your theory.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Society doesn't give rights, it restricts them.

If you were the only person in North America you have the right to do anything you want... anything. You could shit in the punch bowl if you wanted.

BUT, if one (or more) people move in, you now have a society which limits your rights to do anything you want because you have other people to consider. And they you, which limits their right to do anything they want.

Society restricts rights.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Society doesn't give rights, it restricts them.

If you were the only person in North America you have the right to do anything you want... anything. You could shit in the punch bowl if you wanted.
...

Sounds more like no responsibility and a free schedule, not rights.

Rights are agreed-upon behaviors.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

That was after I turned the other cheek twice - that's all he gets. I know: you conservatives need teamwork to even come close to winning an argument against one liberal. And still, you lose.

I'm not a conservative by any stretch of the rational mind and you certainly haven't won any argument in this thread. Or are you talking about some other discussion where you had a better position and weren't trying to deny reality?