Iran; in general

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Back in the 70s the Shah of Iran asked the US for help making Iran nuclear capable. The US - or should I say Israel - said no. So Iran went to Russia. So the CIA had the Shah tossed out leading to the return of Islamic theocracy. Oops.

Oh really? Where did you dig up this bit of conspiracy theory? The US, CIA, had the Shah tossed out? What so we could send a bunch of troops over to get the hostages we let them hold on to for 444 days? Hmmmmmm.....

Did the CIA plan to have those guys die in Desert One as well? Maybe Bush did it.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Oh really? Where did you dig up this bit of conspiracy theory? The US, CIA, had the Shah tossed out?

Yes. In 1953 and again in 1978/9.

Do you think they boys over at Langley just sit on their ass eating jelly donuts all day? No, they are out there stirring up shit wherever they can.

Who was the National Security Adviser under Carter? Hint: A Soviet defector. When did British Petroleum's 1953 agreement to the rights to Iranian oil expire? Hint: It was a 25 year agreement.

I can't believe you even asked me that - its practically common knowledge at this point. Even the CIA won't deny its now well documented role in the 1953 coup that put the Shah in power in the first place.

And of course the CIA didn't anticipate the hostage crisis. As usual, they don't anticipate anything - they just "do." The consequences were left to the peanut brain in the White House at the time who, by admitting the Shah into the US, committed one of the biggest foreign policy blunders of the 20th Century - that probably more than anything led to the hostage crisis.

Here's a couple links that you might find interesting since you apparently think all the CIA does all day is go around the world sticking daisys in gun barrels.

The CIA in Iran
The CIA Manual for the 1953 overthrow
Excerpts from A Century of War - written by a German historian

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Here's a couple links that you might find interesting since you apparently think all the CIA does all day is go around the world sticking daisys in gun barrels.

An interesting ASS-You-Muption.... well stated... Bravo.

I will digest your "proof". Thanks.