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Old 04-04-2007, 10:57 PM   #1
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1.So do you have shares in Gardasil, Merc? 2.Maybe HPV does cause cancer. Is it more cancerous than other things in our environment? 3.Does it cause more cancer than the "shit happens" factor? 4. Is the vaccine safe? 5.What are the long term outcomes? 6.The MMR vaccine was linked with autism. This took 30 years to come to light. 7.Is it respoinsible behaviour to trust a vaccine that's only been around a couple of years? And yes, my kids had the MMR, but I did the research and weighed up the risks. Your OP proposes just wading on in there like there's noithing to lose. 8. How do you know that?
1. No.
2. No one knows.
3. Yes, as far as HPV is concerned it has been studied for years, it is the cause of most cervical cancer.
4. Yes, as far as the clinical trials have shown. I do believe it has been used overseas, like most of our drugs, much longer than in the US.
5. Longer than up to now? Who knows, but how is that different from any other drug? Are you going to not take the newest medications because they haven't been fully tested? How about if you or a family memeber gets a life threatening illness? are you going to say wait, it has not been around for 25 years, don't give me that. When will you trust the science.
6. That connection remains HIGHLY controversial at best.
7. See number 5.
8. No, what I said is look at what you would want for you or your kids future, make the best choice for you, I and people I work with say get it. I got it for my girls.

Ever see anyone with bad warts or cervical cancer, it ain't pretty. JMHO, oh, and some really good science.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:32 PM   #2
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2. No one knows.

>>>hm

3. Yes, as far as HPV is concerned it has been studied for years, it is the cause of most cervical cancer.

>>>please cite references? My family has a history of CC, but negative for HPV. Very interested in this.

4. Yes, as far as the clinical trials have shown. I do believe it has been used overseas, like most of our drugs, much longer than in the US.

>>>Really? Refs please.

5. Longer than up to now? Who knows, but how is that different from any other drug? Are you going to not take the newest medications because they haven't been fully tested? How about if you or a family memeber gets a life threatening illness? are you going to say wait, it has not been around for 25 years, don't give me that. When will you trust the science.

>>>For real? Hell no, I wouldn't take anything without serious evidence that it was going to be beneficial without side effects. When will I trust science? When i see real evidence. I have a Phd in "Science". I've seen what paracetamol/acetomenophen does to brain cells. (It implodes them alamringly quickly). That stuff's available off the shelves and has been around for decades. And you think we should trust this?

6. That connection remains HIGHLY controversial at best.

>>>Oh, I agree, and as I mentioned our kids had the MMR. But the point is it tooke years for a tentative connection to be made.

7. See number 5.

>>>back atcha

8. No, what I said is look at what you would want for you or your kids future, make the best choice for you, I and people I work with say get it. I got it for my girls.

Ever see anyone with bad warts or cervical cancer, it ain't pretty. JMHO, oh, and some really good science.

>>>What Really Good Science? Who are "you and the people you work with"? If you have other information about this, why didn't you share it at the time of the OP?
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