Halliburton Bailing Out

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I have heard this argument a million times. After years on active duty I can tell you one thing. At the time of the deployment, no company, absolutely no company had the ablity, capacity, infrastructure, and history to provide us with what we needed to go to war, of for any other deployment for that matter.

How are you qualified to make that generalization? How the fuck do you know what companies not given a chance would or wouldn't do?

Historically I think you can look at the system over the years, and I mean 20 or so, and judge the way this situation got to where it is now, meaning that how did one company so totally domintate this market.

I suggest you ask Ike.

Well guess what, when troops need support neither I or anyone else really gives a crap about how or where it comes from, as long is it is there when you need it and on time in running order. After that it just doesn't matter who is doing the supplying. Understand?

The problem is not the troops getting supplied, it's the taxpayers getting fucked. Overcharging on no-bid contracts, and charging for supplies and services not delivered. Understand?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

How are you qualified to make that generalization? How the fuck do you know what companies not given a chance would or wouldn't do?
I suggest you ask Ike.
The problem is not the troops getting supplied, it's the taxpayers getting fucked. Overcharging on no-bid contracts, and charging for supplies and services not delivered. Understand?

Why of course I understand. And the govenment has gone after KBR and Haliburton for those over charges.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Some of the ones they can prove, but as the years drag by, yes it will take years, the evidence disappears. Tell you what, give me say 5 or 10 billion and demand it back in 7 or 8 years, I'll cooperate fully, to the penny, no problemo.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Some of the ones they can prove, but as the years drag by, yes it will take years, the evidence disappears. Tell you what, give me say 5 or 10 billion and demand it back in 7 or 8 years, I'll cooperate fully, to the penny, no problemo.

Look, don't think I don't understand your point. Decisions were made in haste no doubt. But here is the deal. And let me preface this with a disclaimer, I am only one guy, one soldier, who had this experience, KBR was the BEST and ONLY pre-positioned company to make this all happen. They have been doing it for years. I experienced it. Their support is real, tangible, effective. So not to discount all of the critical statements, because there is merit to them, no one and absolutely no one could have done the job they did. Opportunist companies sprung up overnight to take advantage of the needs required by the military, but guess what, experience and history were more important than fair play at this juncture. They had the ability, the contacts, the supply trains, the wherewithal, the experience, the list goes on, to deliver to the boots on the ground. And for that I am grateful. No disrespect to you personally but fuck everyone else who doesn't get it. I am tired of the bull shit. Ok, lets go back and get what they owe the taxpayer, fuck them, take them to court, whatever... But quit the sniping about how or why they were chosen in the first place. IMHO it had very little to do with Cheney or any other idiot. The defense industry is a revolving door of insiders, get over it already.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

IMHO it had very little to do with Cheney or any other idiot. The defense industry is a revolving door of insiders, get over it already.

Heh. A revolving door of insiders, except Cheney?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Heh. A revolving door of insiders, except Cheney?

No, the point is that they ALL are insiders, including Cheney.