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03-29-2007, 04:57 PM

Yayyyyy... Pie absolved me!
I can pull the trigger and that is all I'm responsible for!
That bad ol' bullet killed em'.

HungLikeJesus · 03-29-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

However, if you don't do the best you can by your own yardstick, you are always to blame, even if nothing bad comes of it.

So you seem to agree that, since most drivers don't do their best to improve their driving skills, they are at least partly to blame when they are in an accident?

Shawnee123 · 03-29-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

Exactly. You are responsible for doing the best you can. Ethically, morally, and every which other way. Always.

If something bad happens as a result, it is not your fault.

If something good happens, it is not to your praise.

However, if you don't do the best you can by your own yardstick, you are always to blame, even if nothing bad comes of it.

Where in this set of absolutes does one get to think "you know, I really worked hard for that outcome. I deserve to feel good about it."?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-29-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Are you abdicating responsibilty for those things? Is it that God works in mysterious ways? Or coincidence? Shit happens?

You did have some influence in all those things. Your choices put you there. It may have not worked according to plan, but you did make choices, and those choices had those results.

Oh of course, why didn't I see that. If he hadn't chosen to breath this morning he wouldn't have died this afternoon. It's so clear.

Well then, by your logic, I didn't make the decision to be born so everything that happens to me is someone else's fault.

Happy Monkey · 03-29-2007, 08:13 PM

It seems to be a bit of a tautology. It's true, but it says nothing outside of its own validity.

Pie · 03-29-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

So you seem to agree that, since most drivers don't do their best to improve their driving skills, they are at least partly to blame when they are in an accident?

Yep.

Pie · 03-29-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Yayyyyy... Pie absolved me!
I can pull the trigger and that is all I'm responsible for!
That bad ol' bullet killed em'.

No, your action was unethical -- if you believe suicide is unethical.

Pie · 03-29-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

It seems to be a bit of a tautology. It's true, but it says nothing outside of its own validity.

I think you were responding to me?
It does absolve you from guilt over things that were unforeseeable. I have to keep reminding my mother of this from time to time -- you did the best with the information you had -- at the time. You can't beat yourself up forever for things that you didn't know, things that you couldn't have known.

If your actions are good, honorable, ethical, moral, worthwhile... you have lived up to your highest possibility. Doesn't matter if your life sucked, if you made a billion dollars, if you were loved, if you died in a ditch. What you do is all that matters.

Kingswood · 03-29-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Action - driving while drunk

Illegal

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Action - Driving your kids to the swimming pool

Legal

That's the difference.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-29-2007, 10:28 PM

Being a legal act does not remove any responsibility for your actions.

Shawnee123 · 03-30-2007, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Where in this set of absolutes does one get to think "you know, I really worked hard for that outcome. I deserve to feel good about it."?

Am I on ignore, or invisible, or is this not a valid question?

Griff · 03-30-2007, 08:53 AM

Sometimes it's easier to ignore the tough questions.

opinion: The remaining small government conservatives in the GOP are completely out of the loop. They represent a large number of voters and need to assert themselves.

elSicomoro · 03-30-2007, 08:55 AM

I haven't heard much out of Ron Paul recently, but isn't he running for President?

Griff · 03-30-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

I haven't heard much out of Ron Paul recently, but isn't he running for President?

Don't mock my silly belief system lube boy.

elSicomoro · 03-30-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Don't mock my silly belief system lube boy.

I'm not mocking you, drunkard. Depending on the candidates, I might be inclined to vote for someone like Paul.

03-29-2007, 08:13 PM	#230
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03-29-2007, 10:28 PM	#235
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Being a legal act does not remove any responsibility for your actions. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-30-2007, 08:53 AM	#237
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Sometimes it's easier to ignore the tough questions. opinion: The remaining small government conservatives in the GOP are completely out of the loop. They represent a large number of voters and need to assert themselves. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-29-2007, 04:57 PM	#226
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Yayyyyy... Pie absolved me! I can pull the trigger and that is all I'm responsible for! That bad ol' bullet killed em'.

03-30-2007, 08:55 AM	#238
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I haven't heard much out of Ron Paul recently, but isn't he running for President?

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